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Originally Posted by Knight26 View Post

Ok, I delidded my 3770K last weekend and I have been pretty disappointed in the results. The best stable overclock that I could get before delidding was 4.4ghz @ 1.295v. I was hitting upper 80's on the hottest core while the others stayed in the mid-70's using an Antec Kuhler 620 with push/pull fans. One core almost never reaches 70C. I didn't want to push anymore than that cause I didn't like the temps and I couldn't get 4.5ghz stable at the same voltage.



So I upgraded to a custom loop with 2 EK radiators, a cool stream XT 240 in the front and XT 120 in the back. I expected a decent drop in the temps with the upgrade, however I got the same temps with the same overclock, so I decided that delidding was the next step. I order in some Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and popped the top off. Unfortunately, I didn't get the results that I was hoping for. My hottest core is still in the 80's and the temps range by 12C between my coolest and hottest core. At this point, I believe I was just unlucky with the silicon I got. I don't know what else I could done without a more extreme type of cooling.

I don't have any screenshots of my temps at the moment. I working on the road and I'm away from my gaming rig.

have you put LP on the under side of the IHS also??
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

i can tell you right now, theres something else wrong,
nothing to do with unlucky really smile.gif
keep us posted, well figure it out, im sure,
nice pics btw, thanks, and gratz on the successful delid! thumb.gif

first thoughts, because the tempdifference between cores didnt change much too, concave ihs or block...
after delid, if everything is good, you should also see a drop in temp difference between cores,
mine before delid, about 15C diff, after delid 4-6C


Correct.. The ihs could be concave.. have you checked?
Edited by chris-br - 1/17/13 at 12:44pm
post #8822 of 33641
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Originally Posted by megawatz View Post

My cooling isn't even that great. About 5c

All i can is that your HSF is not that good for ivy... You need something better even after delidded.
Edited by chris-br - 1/17/13 at 12:53pm
post #8823 of 33641
Even though he has the 212 evo with CLP on die and IHS the temps have to drop around 15/20 at least, i think he used AS5 on die so its normal the temps only got a 5ºc difference and that was possible only because you removed the glue of the IHS so the gap is smaller.
You need CLP on the die that is the main point of delidding
post #8824 of 33641
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Originally Posted by chris-br View Post

All i can is that your HSF is not that good for ivy... You need something better even after delidded.

idk about that one, my "simple" aircooler is more then enough now..
running IBT at 5.0ghz, 84C hottest core
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Originally Posted by [CyGnus] View Post

Even though he has the 212 evo with CLP on die and IHS the temps have to drop around 15/20 at least, i think he used AS5 on die so its normal the temps only got a 5ºc difference and that was possible only because you removed the glue of the IHS so the gap is smaller.
You need CLP on the die that is the main point of delidding

yeppers smile.gif

o, AS5 gave me about 10-12C tempdrop, when i used it on die , ihs,
but within 2 weeks i already saw my temps go up a bit again, pump out effect i think it was,
it looks alot like the tim intel used too..

the tim intel used isnt that bad, its the gap thats the biggest reason for it running so hot,
the intel tim has more pump out too, just look at pics of just delidded ivy's, there more tim around the die if you look at the inside ihs,
then on it ...lol


some notes,

Basic concept

"Large and fast decreases in temperature when coupled with HLT instructions.
A usage pattern that alternates between full idle and full load conditions
will cause die temps to swing WIDE AND FAST, particularly with overclocked/overvolted CPUs.

This thermal cycling causes TIM pump-out, wherein the TIM gets ejected and displaced by air,
which is of course not a good thing.

Greases also creep, again worsening the situation."

I think this happens more often with IB because of how quick it heats up and cools off.
The die contact area is so small with such drastic temperatures is another reason.


thats one other reason why you should use liquid pro/ultra on the die,
the pump out effect is less, because of the way its made, well, i think anyways ..lol
Edited by VonDutch - 1/17/13 at 1:16pm
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I have a question - anyone ever hear of "Wondershare"? It's for video editing?

I need to make my dad a video editing computer. I don't do video editing, and I'm not exactly sure what is needed in a video editing build. More RAM, that's it right? How much ram? Does a video editing computer use a GPU?
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post #8826 of 33641
Well get a 3770K and delidde it add 2x8GB samsung green and OC it to 2400 cl10/11, sure it uses a GPU but you dont need nothing extreme maybe the HD4000 is enough.
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when i delidded my chip i put mx-4 and only dropped 10c. clp is the way to go. i didnt consider my chip delided till i put coolabs pro on die and dropped almost 30c
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Knight26 Are those cougar vortex on your 620? How do they perform?
post #8829 of 33641
Have any of you started to look into the major differences in IHS and no IHS? I am considering on doing this but I only see two people who have attempted this. Any additional thoughts or concerns of having no IHS?
post #8830 of 33641
well you have zero difference in temps and gain the ability of crushing the Die with the cooler's pressure teaching.gif
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