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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Jesus dude quit with your copy pastes of somebody elses info..

You do not know jack and squat about V core.

Keep on posting that Vid range crap is just making you look dumb bro for real.

I suggest you go to Xtreme Systems or Anandtech and learn a little.. posting that stuff i just chuckle at you.

Not really.. It is what Intel suggests and what they have tested it to.. Running more then 1.52v daily is unknown, even 1.5v is rather high for a daily OC. I remember there were people with Sandy Bridge that had their chips degrade at 1.52v 24/7, even on water.

Honestly, I personally don't go above 1.5v for day by day stuff on any setup. That is just crazy high.
Before you go saying that "Ivy is better then Sandy" you must remember that it is a similar architecture so there is quite the possibility that your chips are all slowly degrading. Mine possibly has even at 1.45v, because it now needs 1.46v for the same 24/7 OC.

And yes, even if you de-lid at run it at 4GHz it is worth it for the lower temps, 25c+ is a lot and will increase the life of your chip or the overclock on your cooler. I.E Someone with a Hyper 212+ can now OC to 4.6GHz as opposed to being forced to run at 4.3GHz because of heat.
 
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well, sorry for being dumb then,
i shut it now....

Last time VID RANGE Has Nothing to Do with V CORE

Quit using it and preaching it like it's the bible.

We have no Idea what the Max safe Vcore for Ivy is...

There are NO reports of degrading.... There for im going with a HIGH number until a report says differently

Also i may be moody due to out of smokes and learning i have to buy 2 more 90 compression fittings things are 19$ each...
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Not really.. It is what Intel suggests and what they have tested it to.. Running more then 1.52v daily is unknown, even 1.5v is rather high for a daily OC. I remember there were people with Sandy Bridge that had their chips degrade at 1.52v 24/7, even on water.

Honestly, I personally don't go above 1.5v for day by day stuff on any setup. That is just crazy high.
Before you go saying that "Ivy is better then Sandy" you must remember that it is a similar architecture so there is quite the possibility that your chips are all slowly degrading. Mine possibly has even at 1.45v, because it now needs 1.46v for the same 24/7 OC.

And yes, even if you de-lid at run it at 4GHz it is worth it for the lower temps, 25c+ is a lot and will increase the life of your chip or the overclock on your cooler. I.E Someone with a Hyper 212+ can now OC to 4.6GHz as opposed to being forced to run at 4.3GHz because of heat.

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Gameplay is very smooth on most of the games I play (BF3 and Far Cry 3 <== This one night and day difference) and I gained another 50mhz on my OCs.

Not to mention that trifire is going to +90% in BF3.

In addition game profiles got an update in 13.2 when compared to 13.1:

3dMark Vantage (cfx)
Battle Forge (cfx)
Aliens Vs Predator (cfx)
Lost Planet 2 (cfx)
F1 2012 (cfx)
3DMark 11 (cfx)
Crysis 2 (cfx)
Battlefield 3 (cfx)
Dirt Showdown (cfx)
Crysis 3 (unreleased)
Medal of Honor: Warfighter (cfx)
Tomb Raider (unreleased)
Nexuiz (cfx)
Blacklight: Retribution (cfx)
FarCry 3 (single card)
Skyrim (cfx & single card)
GuildWars 2 (cfx & single card)
Borderlands 2 (cfx & single card)
Rise of the Triad (unreleased)

cool, thanks King4x4,
reading up on it now,

"The guys at Tech Report managed to get their hands on the Catalyst 13.2 beta driver and ran thorough tests with it. Using an MSI Radeon HD 7950, they compared the results with the previous beta version, the 12.11 beta 8.

Skyrim, Borderlands 2 and Guild Wars 2 were used as a test suite, with the resulting graph showing that the 13.2 beta will not improve the framerate but the frame time. Hence: a smoother graphics experience.

Tests revealed that the average FPS was approximately the same between the 12.11 beta 8 and the 13.2.

The obvious performance increase (as much as 27%) can be noticed where frame time is concerned, which dropped from 25.6 milliseconds to 18.6 while playing Skyrim.

Borderlands 2 scored a 7ms fall in frame time. There is also a 1 FPS average dip which is barely noticeable.

The compromise AMD made with the beta driver is best noticed in the performance graph from the Guild Wars 2 gameplay. With the 12.11 beta 8 driver, the average FPS was at 66 and the frame time at 34.7 ms. The 13.2 beta cuts the framerate by 5 and the frame time by an amazing 10.1ms."
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Catalyst-13-2-Beta-Driver-Benchmarks-Look-Promising-322097.shtml

so not a real improvement in fps, but faster frame times, so smoother game play right smile.gif
will try find them, and install, see if i notice a difference too like you did

edit,
running into problems installing, i un-installed the old 12.11 cap2 drivers,
but on reboot, windows tried to install drivers again ..lol
got them installed now, but idk..CCC showing black on the left side, no buttons there,
only if i hover the mouse over them.. any tips?

another reboot, my drivers where gone, windows installed them again?
reboot, now windows hangs about 2 min upon logon desktop..grmbl..
me thinks its time to reinstall windows completely..
Edited by VonDutch - 1/20/13 at 3:34am
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True 1.52v max Vid has nothing to do with max vcore for Ivy, no need to start a war here everyone has different opinions for Hokies83 lets give it voltage since there is no proof of degrading for me i use 1.3/1.4v for the simple reason that if i kill the cpu i dont have the cash to buy another, again i dont know if he will die since we dont know the max tolerance of ivy.
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True 1.52v max Vid has nothing to do with max vcore for Ivy, no need to start a war here everyone has different opinions for Hokies83 lets give it voltage since there is no proof of degrading for me i use 1.3/1.4v for the simple reason that if i kill the cpu i dont have the cash to buy another, again i dont know if he will die since we dont know the max tolerance of ivy.

A simple answer to that would be the Intel Tuning Plan. tongue.gif Other than that, how can Intel really say it was overclocked? tongue.gif
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But if they have that plan i think they have a certain assurance that these CPU's can take a lot, cause i dont see any other way for they to have a profit from that
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well, now i know for sure something is wrong,
just did 3D mark run, giving me a P5516 score, instead of the 10790 i had before...LOL
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5634797

somehow my 7970 is running at 500/685, instead of the 1100/1500mhz oc ive set it to...haha
it was ok when i rebooted, not sure what happened...
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what app do you use? MSI AB? Trixx? Sometimes i have to check them befor i lauch games or 3dmark cause the voltage does not rise to were i had set it
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what app do you use? MSI AB? Trixx?

after burner, i checked when i booted, it was on the 1100/1500 i set it to,
then i ran 3D mark, and when it was finished, the very low settings showed,
so i opened AB again, and the settings where changed to 500/685..

will try again...

edit,
still the same problem on boot, windows freeze for 2 min on desktop login,
cant open anything.. ab shows 100/1500 now, will rerun 3D mark now..

better, P10848
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5635149

compare to the old 12.11 cap2 drivers, 10790


still leaves the boot problem i have now,
think i will go back a few days, and run the 12.11 drivers,
dont feel like re installing windows today ..lol
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use that amd clean driver app they released days a go and give it another try with 13.2b
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