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my quick 4.8 run..notice the temps


So I was experimenting..decided to practice on an old Athalon cpu and a q6600 cpu. The Athlon delidding went fine, no scratches and came off easily...as for the Q6600..well that was tough. There seems to be a lot of glue. i went all the way around carefully, pulling black sticky stuff, which I assume is glue, along with each pass and I still couldn't seperate the cpu. I ended up breaking the blade and I gave up. I really want to try my 3570k but if it is as hard to do as the Q6600 then I'm going to have to pass.

reason I'd like to delid : when i sit at idle or bench and max load my cpu core 0 and core 3 are always 10c lower than core 1 and 2. Example..currently I'm idleing at core0: 24.0c, core1: 31c, core2: 32c, and core3: 20c..what I'd like to see is 1 and 2 as low as the other 2 core. Would delidding help that issue? Some one told me that it's normal for 2 core to run hotter than the other..but i find a 10c diffrence to be quit ridiculous.

I have been able to hit 4.7 on my chip for 2 hours on OCCT. I backed off and decided not to go further because the 2 hot cores wre dangerously close to the TJmax. Anyway, I guess my questions are ; Would delidding help the issue and is delidding the 3570k IB as hard as delidding the q6600?

Oh also, what am i trying not to scratch? the thing in the center I know for sure but am i also trying to keep the pcb as flawless as possible? I just wnat to cover all my bases. i'm sure it was mentioned at the beginning but I'm not really schooled in all the technical names..like IHS and all that. Excuse my noobness. If my lack of technical experience suggests that i shouldn't delid please let me know. I do know that I shouldn't stick a pocket knife in the middle and bang away at it like I saw in the video.
Edited by Blatsz32 - 10/18/12 at 1:23am
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my quick 4.8 run..notice the temps

So I was experimenting..decided to practice on an old Athalon cpu and a q6600 cpu. The Athlon delidding went fine, no scratches and came off easily...as for the Q6600..well that was tough. There seems to be a lot of glue. i went all the way around carefully, pulling black sticky stuff, which I assume is glue, along with each pass and I still couldn't seperate the cpu. I ended up breaking the blade and I gave up. I really want to try my 3570k but if it is as hard to do as the Q6600 then I'm going to have to pass.
reason I'd like to delid : when i sit at idle or bench and max load my cpu core 0 and core 3 are always 10c lower than core 1 and 2. Example..currently I'm idleing at core0: 24.0c, core1: 31c, core2: 32c, and core3: 20c..what I'd like to see is 1 and 2 as low as the other 2 core. Would delidding help that issue? Some one told me that it's normal for 2 core to run hotter than the other..but i find a 10c diffrence to be quit ridiculous.
I have been able to hit 4.7 on my chip for 2 hours on OCCT. I backed off and decided not to go further because the 2 hot cores wre dangerously close to the TJmax. Anyway, I guess my questions are ; Would delidding help the issue and is delidding the 3570k IB as hard as delidding the q6600?
Oh also, what am i trying not to scratch? the thing in the center I know for sure but am i also trying to keep the pcb as flawless as possible? I just wnat to cover all my bases. i'm sure it was mentioned at the beginning but I'm not really schooled in all the technical names..like IHS and all that. Excuse my noobness. If my lack of technical experience suggests that i shouldn't delid please let me know. I do know that I shouldn't stick a pocket knife in the middle and bang away at it like I saw in the video.


you will get less temperature difference between cores, but there will always be a difference,
be it because of the what they call sleeping core, or just 1 core doing a bit more work..
my core differences where 10 to 15C before delid, after it was better, but still there, like here,


delidding depends on what you want to do with OCing, if a 4.7-4.8ghz OC gives very high temps,
like i had 105C with prime , running at 4.5ghz..

youre trying not to scratch the PCB, made this pic to make it more clear what what is ..lol


not sure if a 3570k is harder to delid then a Q6600, all i know, and see, if it goes wrong,
most of the time its because peeps are in to big a hurry, take your time i would say,
prepare well, by reading and watching vid's, ask questions etc smile.gif
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OK. So things have not gone so well.... It was not hard to do really, or so it seems.....cause it would not POST. redface.gif
Closer examination found a tiny scratch in the PCB. Guess I was in too much of a hurry...... biggrin.gif
So, I'll have to head to micro center soon and hope they have a 3770K in stock - and maybe an even better one! thumb.gif

onoooo frown.gif , try what others say,
reseat , retry a few times, see if you can get it to boot etc..
nail polish, or epoxy glue might help, not sure about their conductivity tho
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WOW! This looks challenging, scary, and exhilerating all at the same time! Right up my alley! Can a Q9550 be de-lidded very easily? Or is it in the same class as a Q6600? I've got both, so if I were to practice on one I think I would chose the Q6600 or even my Q8200 if it's similar too.
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WOW! This looks challenging, scary, and exhilerating all at the same time! Right up my alley! Can a Q9550 be de-lidded very easily? Or is it in the same class as a Q6600? I've got both, so if I were to practice on one I think I would chose the Q6600 or even my Q8200 if it's similar too.

Mail me the Q6600 and ill mail u 2 Pent 4s to test it on lol
    
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Mail me the Q6600 and ill mail u 2 Pent 4s to test it on lol

Don't know what I'm thinkin'! I've got a couple of old P4's I could practice on. Now I just need to read up on the subject more and go for it! devil-smiley-019.gif
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Don't know what I'm thinkin'! I've got a couple of old P4's I could practice on. Now I just need to read up on the subject more and go for it! devil-smiley-019.gif

Why destroy good benching cpu's like that? mail me the q9550 I'll put it to good use under DICE. tongue.gif

I bet those cpu's have soldered IHS, you're gonna kill them like I killed my 775 P4. Delid the 478 and 423 P4's...those were glued.
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Why destroy good benching cpu's like that? mail me the q9550 I'll put it to good use under DICE. tongue.gif
I bet those cpu's have soldered IHS, you're gonna kill them like I killed my 775 P4. Delid the 478 and 423 P4's...those were glued.

The LAST thing I wanna' do is kill my CPU's! I think I'd cry! Now I'm skeart.......... sad-smiley-002.gif
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The LAST thing I wanna' do is kill my CPU's! I think I'd cry! Now I'm skeart.......... sad-smiley-002.gif

Don't be scared, just delid the Ivy chip carefully...You always can resort to black epoxy and rma wink.gif
BTW, I only wanted to warn you cause soldered die to ihs chips die rather fast when delidded, unless you are fearless and can blowtorche them apart.
Practice on pentium 4's, they are dirt cheap and willing to die protecting your Ivy.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Don't be scared, just delid the Ivy chip carefully...You always can resort to black epoxy and rma wink.gif
BTW, I only wanted to warn you cause soldered die to ihs chips die rather fast when delidded, unless you are fearless and can blowtorche them apart.
Practice on pentium 4's, they are dirt cheap and willing to die protecting your Ivy.

Actually I am an accomplished coppersmith and I own a NICE jeweler's torch. I would actually feel more comfortable with that method. I've already formulated "slicing" about a 1/4" piece from an ice cube to rest under it while I de-lid to keep the center cool. Should work. Heck, I've lapped 'em all so I'm used to plopping a perfectly good CPU down in a puddle of water! biggrin.gif
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