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Originally Posted by Faelore View Post

you think i could clear 5.4 ghz if i delided? from what i can tell i got quite the golden chip tongue.gif
Quote Faelore
I settled on a modest overclock of 4.4ghz at 1.23v its prime stable and the hottest core after 24 hours was 62c
end quote

i thought , not really golden see, thats why i asked him for a 4.5ghz oc to compare
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

can you run 4.5ghz, but has to be stable, then i can better tell you if its worth it,
been comparing for a while now with vcores needed at 4.5ghz..
5.4ghz ..nah, havent seen one yet that could do that within normal vcore range, on air/water that is smile.gif
5.2ghz yes, theres some out there that can run that 24/7 np..

if it can run 4.5ghz with vcore lower then 1.25 or better under 1.2V, then you have a very nice chip, or golden ..lol

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Originally Posted by [CyGnus] View Post

Dont know if true, my 3570K needs 1.18v for 4.5GHz 1.24v for 4.6GHz 1.29v for 4.7GHz 1.36v for 4.8GHz after that it just isnt stable for 24/7 no matter the voltage

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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

yea, that is a bit strange, maybe i should rethink what im trying to do,
was trying to find a way to see if a chip is worth delidding vcore wise,
by comparing good/high ocers with the vcores they need at 4.5ghz,
because almost all undelidded ivy's can run 4.5ghz,

mine needs 1.235V vcore to make 4.5ghz run stable, and its a average ocer,
at 4.8ghz i need 1.420V vcore
4.9ghz is a no go for me, needs about 1.510V vcore..

i thought 4.5ghz would be a nice one to use for comparison
besides the tempdrops if you do..
4.8ghz at 1.36V vcore is still very good, you still should be able to run 4.9ghz,
cant imagine you make a 0.160V vcore jump between 4.8 and 4.9ghz, and hit 1.52V vcore that way tho smile.gif

dont know if this post makes sense, im (very)tired ..lol

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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

For binning it seems like most are using 5Ghz for a reference, getting to desktop & handling a light load (like single thread) at 1.3v & under are the great ones, more it needs the less great it is.
The chip I'm using now can run IBT max mem stable 4.5Ghz @ 1.128V, scales to 4.7Ghz at 1.224V, then needs big bumps, 5Ghz boots at 1.44V & needs 1.54V for stable. Not bad but not great or golden.

so you guys think im on the wrong track with this?
comparing chip's at 4.5 ghz and see if its stable with vcores below 1.2V,
to see if its worth to delid, and have a good one to oc higher with nice vcores?

i did notice that even tho if it has a good vcore at 4.5ghz, with higher oc's you cant
really tell yet where it hits the "wall", can be at 4.7ghz or 4.9ghz, no way to tell,
except to try it, but theres not many un-delidded ivy's that can run that high oc's
just to test it, thats why i looked at the 4.5ghz and the vcores it needs there, since most can run that un-delidded..

mine makes a big jump going from 4.8 to 4.9ghz as you can see above..
Edited by VonDutch - 1/25/13 at 10:24pm
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So i have this Extra Highend 35mm Switchtech rad with a built in Res....

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Okay. finally got my OS right.. think I'm gonna take a wack at 5 Ghz and see where I can get.
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Originally Posted by Belial View Post

Does anyone know if the UD5H is better than the UD3H (price totally out of the factor, and stuff like extra usb or sata ports out of the factor too). Basically, does it oc better, does it have a better vrm?

from what ive read, the ud3h has better mosfets but the ud5h has more phases. Im gonna trade in my ud3h at MC for a ud5h, and get $30 back, because the ud5h is actually $79 vs the $109 i got my ud3h for.

the ud5h is cheaper!? Then go for it!
It has better onboard sound and a headphone amp. thumb.gif
Same power delivery section.

What exactly is the headphone amp stuff (i use 2 crap speakers from some cd player system i got like 10 years ago, i mean they are just big speakers, they cant be bad though).

From what I read (in regards to Extreme4's alc898 vs UD3H), the alc898 is the same as VIA except in the 'midrange' in which case the VIA is slightly (unnoticeably) better (whatever that means, *** is mid-range).

I mean it's all the same, but from what I've read, the ud5h isn't really a better board than the ud3h. It's plainly just a ud3h with vrm heatsinks on the iGPU and a few other phases that dont need heatsinks on them (that top row), a doubler on lower quality mosfets (could be wrong on that, but i read that...somewhere, that ud5h uses lower quality mosfets) so it's not even a true 12+ phase (or is it? im a bit confused, doubler is the worse one right, ie extreme4 is 4+1 phase with a doubler), and some extra sata/usb ports (i dont use usb/sata 3.0 even, i use single ssd and thats it, and single gpu, as sli doesnt work for the programs i use to stream, any of them).

I mean sounds like for the price, the ud3h is a better value simply because ud5h isn't any improvement. I mean, pocketing $30, that's a no brainer, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't downgrading or anything.

On a side note, I could just trade my UD3H for an extreme6 (since the extreme6 is $109 right now.. or is it extreme7, or 8, whatever, i do know the extreme4 is bad but the extreme6 or whatever is a high quality board and massive step up whereas the ud5h is not a massive step up from the ud3h, at least as i understand it). The one con with the ud5h though, that, unlike the ud3h, is does not have a ps/2 port. kind of a turn off.

On a side note, I'm gonna be binning 2 3570ks in the coming week. As I understand the way to 'bin' - set VID to 1.55, and push multi up, boot up into windows, dont even stress test just keep doing that until no more boot into windows. Then, do it again with next chip, compare results, one chip is better than the other. I happen to be making 2 3570k builds right now (ram is taking forever to arrive from canada, by the time it arrives the parts for this other build will all have arrived, not to mention that nh-d14 mount from austria so i'll probably have a cm v6gt @$25 and a full setup before then).

Also thinking of getting that $20 msi g41 for a build that will just be a minor oc on stock voltage or so (it's for someone else who is computer illiterate, im just gonna turn a quick 4.3+ ghz and whatever). that or the ud5h for $79.... might be a bit overkill for their needs.
Edited by Belial - 1/25/13 at 11:34pm
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oh cmonnn

All of you didnt see my delid frown.gif I need more opinions like from you Vulgaur!

Also Vulg, do you have steam or something we can Im on?
Edited by DiamondCut - 1/25/13 at 11:12pm
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oh cmonnn

All of you didnt see my delid frown.gif I need more opinions like from you Vulgaur!

Also Vulg, do you have steam or something we can Im on?

lol, before you start calling me VunDotch, its Valgaur... or Val wink.gif

srry i missed your delid post..what page?
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lol, before you start calling me VunDotch, its Valgaur... or Val wink.gif

srry i missed your delid post..what page?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-ivy-bridge-club/9920_20#post_19139389
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oh cmonnn

All of you didnt see my delid frown.gif I need more opinions like from you Vulgaur!

Also Vulg, do you have steam or something we can Im on?
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Lapped and CLP'd my chip. Lots o pics!

I wont know what my chip ends up doing until maybe sunday tongue.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



















not much opinions to give i think, it all looks good to me DiamondCut smile.gif




gotcha, now im confused, because you say, we didnt see your delid, what was it about, did you lap the ihs only, or delid and lapped?
its up and running now?
all i can see on the pics, it looks like alot of clp on the die, thats all, doesnt mean temps wont drop or anything ,
but i like thin layers, dont want to end up it looking like this when you take it apart again,
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oh cmonnn

All of you didnt see my delid frown.gif I need more opinions like from you Vulgaur!

Also Vulg, do you have steam or something we can Im on?

Yeah I got Skype PM and I'll IM

Also....

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2667923

very dirty OC by the way.
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