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I'll still buy Nvidia products, because I think the power/performance/reliability/temperature factor is better than AMD. Has nothing to do with voltage control. Not being a fanboy, I'm just stating what I think

Uh, hasn't AMD had higher performance when you compare OCed and high resolution numbers? They are clocked 10% lower out of the gate, nVidia has GPU Boost which makes their cards effectively get OCed numbers against AMDs stock cards and AMDs clock higher to boot...Considering that iirc, the Ghz edition HD7970 matched the 680 overall, I'd say AMD gets the crown this generation simply because they're in the same position Intel is for but with far less of a difference, by that, I mean they have higher IPC and slightly higher/equal at worst clocks to boot.
    
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I'll still buy Nvidia products, because I think the power/performance/reliability/temperature factor is better than AMD.

Well, they lose or tie in 3 out of 4 of those with the exception of the 670 and 680. Tahiti was a bit of a stinker. Reliability is up to debate, but with the situation the way it is right now, I think you'd have a very tough time trying to paint AMD as being more unreliable than Nvidia.
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the power is where the 7970 mainly loses out of the 4 but does very well on the other 3, hell scalability on Crossfire is noticable and overclock scalability to i believe.
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post #194 of 252
The only 680 that is demonstrably better than the 7970 is the 680 Lightning and that is only because of voltage control. Take that away as Nvidia has and there's really nothing the 680 has going for it over the 7970 other than a small efficiency advantage...
post #195 of 252
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Uh, hasn't AMD had higher performance when you compare OCed and high resolution numbers? They are clocked 10% lower out of the gate, nVidia has GPU Boost which makes their cards effectively get OCed numbers against AMDs stock cards and AMDs clock higher to boot...Considering that iirc, the Ghz edition HD7970 matched the 680 overall, I'd say AMD gets the crown this generation simply because they're in the same position Intel is for but with far less of a difference, by that, I mean they have higher IPC and slightly higher/equal at worst clocks to boot.
This gen, AMD has the performance, especially at high resolutions.
Better temperatures, if you consider that 70C wall on the 600 series
And they hav e the better prices as well

Nvidia has better power consumption

I doubt either has low enough reliability that it would matter, though, Nvidia has EVGA.
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Nvidia has better power consumption
Only with the 670 and 680. AMD has the edge with Pitcairn and Cape Verde, as they're significantly more efficient than Tahiti.
Proof (Click to show)
perfwatt.gif

Well, maybe just Pitcairn. Cape Verde is as efficient on the low end, but scales higher. The 650 presumably is all that Nvidia can squeeze out of GK107.
Edited by Homeles - 10/8/12 at 1:24pm
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post #197 of 252
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Only with the 670 and 680. AMD has the edge with Pitcairn and Cape Verde, as they're significantly more efficient than Tahiti. Proof (Click to show)
perfwatt.gif
Well, maybe just Pitcairn. Cape Verde is as efficient on the low end, but scales higher. The 650 presumably is all that Nvidia can squeeze out of GK107.
The 680 TDP is 195 W and the 7970 TDP is 250 W, so the 680 is still a little more efficient. I don't really bother looking at the mid range cards.
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The 680 TDP is 195 W and the 7970 TDP is 250 W, so the 680 is still a little more efficient. I don't really bother looking at the mid range cards.
But you're missing 66% of AMD's lineup. You have to look at the big picture when making broad generalizations.

Also, TDP != power consumption, especially when you're doing a cross-company comparison, because they calculate TDP differently.
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post #199 of 252
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But you're missing 66% of AMD's lineup. You have to look at the big picture when making broad generalizations.
Also, TDP != power consumption, especially when you're doing a cross-company comparison, because they calculate TDP differently.
The non top of the line aren't fun enough to bother looking at. tongue.gif
I did not know about the TDP calculation differences though.
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Only with the 670 and 680. AMD has the edge with Pitcairn and Cape Verde, as they're significantly more efficient than Tahiti. Proof (Click to show)
perfwatt.gif
Well, maybe just Pitcairn. Cape Verde is as efficient on the low end, but scales higher. The 650 presumably is all that Nvidia can squeeze out of GK107.
The 680 TDP is 195 W and the 7970 TDP is 250 W, so the 680 is still a little more efficient. I don't really bother looking at the mid range cards.

yeah and the GTX 480's TDP is 250W. Does the 7970 draw anywhere near as much power as a 480? Though the 680 is definitely a bit more efficient than the 7970... just not 30% more efficient.
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