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I don't want to read into this too much, but...
NVIDIA is hurting us enthusiasts by doing this. By leashing AIB manufacturers, consumers are getting less performance for their money. Is NVIDIA so protective of their brand reputation that they are willing to force AIB to comply with their demands while limiting the true performance potential of Kepler? Don't bite the hand that feed you...
The negative press and potential consumer backlash should have given NVIDIA pause to think twice about their stance towards overvolting.

If I've understood the whole situation correctly. Most consumers aren't getting less performance for their money and might actually get lower priced cards due to more chips being out there that don't get fried. Enthusiasts get to keep their overclocking warranty, would you rather there be no OC warranty coverage or voltage control because that's probably the situation. If a card manufacturer wants to go outside of that spec, that's fine, but they won't be able to go back to NVidia with "defective" chips. That leaves them a choice of either no giving warranties for OCing or conforming to NVidia's specs. You can bet they will quickly conform to the specs since they don't want to foot the bill for defective chips either and they don't want to lose the major draw of having OC covered under warranty.

If I had to guess, since the current cards were originally meant to be midranged cards they weren't designed and don't handle extra power/heat from pushing them to the limits well. Card manufactures were pushing those chips to the limit in sales competition and Nvidia was footing the bill. Nvidia had to bring down the hammer so they didn't end up losing money. It's just a simple case of a company trying to save money. Should Nvidia or AMD be responsible for "defective" chips when card manufacturers are trying to put 1.21 GW through their chips and only say 10% hold up? I don't think so. That won't stop people from trying to vilify Nvidia though, but I'd wager AMD is probably heading that direction as well and when it happens it will be all sunshine and rainbows for them.
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'They [Nvidia] also threaten allocation if you make a card faster than the [stock] GTX 690.

This also seems insane! I wonder how Asus feels about this. No MARS cards this go around.

They couldnt even tell us how they feel anyway or Nvidia will cut their chip allocation.
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source alleging that Nvidia may even cut chip allocations for companies that talk publicly about the matter
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EVGA coming to an AMD GPU near you.... I can EVGA starting to produce AMD cards..
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and we have a winner!
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Enthusiasts get to keep their overclocking warranty, would you rather there be no OC warranty coverage or voltage control because that's probably the situation
EVGA...
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EVGA coming to an AMD GPU near you.... I can EVGA starting to produce AMD cards..
I hope that they start producing ATI cards. It's hard to be an EVGA fanboy when Nvidia pulls this stuff.
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If card manufacturers are forced to leave out voltage tweaking on their cards and high oc claims to attract customers then they will be forced to focus more on extreme cooling or bundled items included in the sale of a gpu such as games or maybe t-shirts or sweets etc anything to
differentiate themselves from the competiton..... This could be a good thing ?
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If card manufacturers are forced to leave out voltage tweaking on their cards and high oc claims to attract customers then they will be forced to focus more on extreme cooling or bundled items included in the sale of a gpu such as games or maybe t-shirts or sweets etc anything to
differentiate themselves from the competiton..... This could be a good thing ?
How are t-shirts, sweets, or games you can pick up for cheap on steam a good thing compared to being able to tweak your card for extra performance? I'd much rather see awesome cards with great features than locked down cards that come with a bunch of frivolous bullcrap I couldn't care less about.
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If card manufacturers are forced to leave out voltage tweaking on their cards and high oc claims to attract customers then they will be forced to focus more on extreme cooling or bundled items included in the sale of a gpu such as games or maybe t-shirts or sweets etc anything to
differentiate themselves from the competiton..... This could be a good thing ?
No. When I buy a graphics card, I care only about price, performance, and how much the OC will entertain me, not some bundled items or a fancy cooler (I just use an Antec 620).
Better cooler technology doesn't even matter, if you aren't overclocking. A twinfrozr cooler can probably run most cards stock quietly at good temperatures.
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I doubt it will stay like this for long. A little bad press goes a long way.
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Wow. I had no idea Nvidia were this strict about it.
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