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Whatever card performs better with OC is where my money goes. Nvidia wants to cripple their cards? AMD gets my money and every recommendation for every clan/gaming buddy that takes my advice.
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pfft ... and how many of you people use LN2 for overclcoking and world record breaking in-house? smile.gif
LOL! I'm pretty happy with my voltage-locked 670 card running 1243MHz core & 7GHz memory ... of course it's the nvidia who sets the max safe voltage limit, but wasn't that like this with ANY GPU so far in general?
in past we had cards coming at (lower) set voltage from factory and max (considered safe by OC communities) voltage limit learned by trial and error ... and then checking what clocks can be achieved in that range ...
not much really changed ... in fact it's still exactly same, only difference that it was nvidia who tested what voltage levels can be harmful and locked them out, setting a max limit.
Still each Kepler card can do different clocks (max boost) even though all of them are locked at same max boostable voltage (while idling at lower volts and clocks to save power).
sorry, but to me at least those cards are powerful enough at max boosted clocks and "locked voltage at max 1.17V"
I can also very well understand Nvidia stance against AIBs who are supposed to cover warranty repairs of their own re-designed cards, that were modified to run well above reference speeds and voltages ... why would nvidia pay for someone else's faults?
I like nvidia cards for many things and definitely will be buying another 670 by the end of year to enjoy a powerful SLI at a decent price (which didn't change much if at all versus past releases).

The thing is, we weren't forcibly locked out of higher voltages before. Sure, you run the risk of burning up your card, but at least you HAD that choice to make on your own. Plus. silicon doesn't degrade because of high voltage alone, it degrades because of a combination of high voltage, high temperatures, and low quality components.

Nvidia also makes it seem like over-volting your card will make it degrade within a very short time. That's far from the truth, unless you're running EXTREMELY high voltages (in the range on 200% compared to stock), you won't experience any significant degradation until you're already on your next card.
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Originally Posted by hammerforged View Post

Already been pulled frown.gif
http://www.techpowerup.com/171202/ASUS-ROG-MARS-III-Dual-GTX-680-PCB-Pictured.html
Probably directly because of Nvidia request. I would be upset if I was Asus. They didnt just go make a Mars III PCB for show.


Wow. This is so damn troubling.
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I really dont belive what im reading, cant be true, if it is then i can bet you anything it wont be for too long tongue.gif
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This has nothing to do with RMAs. If you overclock it you lose warranty anyway.

It is just about Nvidia and the different cards they sell for different prices. If they allowed overvolting and you could OC a 680 to a spot better than the 690 they lose sales and a lot of money. Same counts when 670s pass 680s like that. It is a marketing game. The reason why we still buy the best cards.

And the red team pfffff. Come one. AMD would do the same thing. This is bigger than a couple of thousand overclockers. This is a billion dollar industry. The one n top will use such strategies to increase their profit and market share.

If you want to punish them don't buy new stuff at all. Like that is going to happen.

That is a blatantly false information.

They wouldnt have made half the profits that they do now if they didnt include overclocking.
     
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This has nothing to do with RMAs. If you overclock it you lose warranty anyway.

It is just about Nvidia and the different cards they sell for different prices. If they allowed overvolting and you could OC a 680 to a spot better than the 690 they lose sales and a lot of money. Same counts when 670s pass 680s like that. It is a marketing game. The reason why we still buy the best cards.

And the red team pfffff. Come one. AMD would do the same thing. This is bigger than a couple of thousand overclockers. This is a billion dollar industry. The one n top will use such strategies to increase their profit and market share.

If you want to punish them don't buy new stuff at all. Like that is going to happen.

That is a blatantly false information.

They wouldnt have made half the profits that they do now if they didnt include overclocking.

Does Nvidia make most of their money with Tesla/Quadro and HPC? Perhaps the enthusiast/overclocking market is not important to Nvidia?
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Originally Posted by bigkahuna360 View Post

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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

This has nothing to do with RMAs. If you overclock it you lose warranty anyway.

It is just about Nvidia and the different cards they sell for different prices. If they allowed overvolting and you could OC a 680 to a spot better than the 690 they lose sales and a lot of money. Same counts when 670s pass 680s like that. It is a marketing game. The reason why we still buy the best cards.

And the red team pfffff. Come one. AMD would do the same thing. This is bigger than a couple of thousand overclockers. This is a billion dollar industry. The one n top will use such strategies to increase their profit and market share.

If you want to punish them don't buy new stuff at all. Like that is going to happen.

That is a blatantly false information.

They wouldnt have made half the profits that they do now if they didnt include overclocking.

Does Nvidia make most of their money through Tesla/Quadro and HPC? Perhaps the enthusiast/overclocking market is not important to Nvidia?

Excluding enterprise of course wink.gif
     
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NVIDIA just say what the upper limit is if you want warranty,complain to evga gees if you want everything unwarrentied unlocked.
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Well the proof is in the pudding. Why else would EVGA remove the voltage control? Why else would we see so much homogenous products on the Nvidia side?

It sounds like Nvidia is setting these restrictions. Why I am not sure but they must have some reason that they think benefits them. Maybe it has to do with warranty costs?
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Has nVidia been talking to EA? rolleyes.gif
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