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what are you talking about guys ... there still will be "special/OC" versions of cards from nvidia made by vendors, more pricey probably (to offset the lack of nvidia warranty to vendors), with end-user warranty covered by vendors alone.
for regular mortals with less money however only the "locked" versions ... which are still OK and a beast when compared to former models ... I don't really see the point in this all fuss.

I don't believe that vendors will continue to stop making OC'ed cards much longer, it's either their accept lack of warranty from nvidia (and offset the price to cover it) or they stop making them at all cutting own incomes in favor of other vendors who continue...

also, you think that AMD won't follow this trend? what if it started already doing it?

I was smelling it coming from a long time, not surprised at all, and I believe the 700 series will be exactly same...
post #62 of 252
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

EVGA...
I hope that they start producing ATI cards. It's hard to be an EVGA fanboy when Nvidia pulls this stuff.

amd needs to work on their drivers first...i had 3 generations of amd cards and it was the driver support that made me switch
 
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^ This.
I love nVidia, always have, please for the love of god let GTX780 have flexible voltage control frown.gif
It's the entire reason I skipped the GTX600 series and if the next generation is a repeat, AMD here I come....as much as I don't want to....mad.gif
You could just stay with Fermi forever. 4 way 580s. biggrin.gif
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amd needs to work on their drivers first...i had 3 generations of amd cards and it was the driver support that made me switch
Haven't they fixed that by now? They even have better multi monitor support than Nvidia.
post #64 of 252
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Originally Posted by feniks View Post

what are you talking about guys ... there still will be "special/OC" versions of cards from nvidia made by vendors, more pricey probably (to offset the lack of nvidia warranty to vendors), with end-user warranty covered by vendors alone.
for regular mortals with less money however only the "locked" versions ... which are still OK and a beast when compared to former models ... I don't really see the point in this all fuss.
I don't believe that vendors will continue to stop making OC'ed cards much longer, it's either their accept lack of warranty from nvidia (and offset the price to cover it) or they stop making them at all cutting own incomes in favor of other vendors who continue...
also, you think that AMD won't follow this trend? what if it started already doing it?
I was smelling it coming from a long time, not surprised at all, and I believe the 700 series will be exactly same...

The source from the vendor is reporting that if they do release an overvolted card, nVidia will stop sending them chips.

It's in the OP:
Quote:
A source inside one of Nvidia's largest graphics manufacturing partners, who spoke to us on the condition that they remain anonymous, explains: 'The fact is Nvidia is stopping ALL partners from allowing any form of hardware/software overvolting, or providing hardware mods beyond its very limited restrictions. They threaten to cut allocation [of GK100 parts] if hardware mods aren’t removed or avoided entirely.'

So it's actually a pretty big deal, and by the sounds of it, no you won't be seeing any unlocked variants.
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You could just stay with Fermi forever. 4 way 580s. biggrin.gif
Haven't they fixed that by now? They even have better multi monitor support than Nvidia.

i dont see how mutli monitor is gonna help if they refuse to fix existing bugs(3 series had serious flickering in GTA iv, 5 series has shadow artifacts in crysis) if they refuse to fix a product that's 3 generations old, how could i expect them to support a product that just came out?
 
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^ This.
I love nVidia, always have, please for the love of god let GTX780 have flexible voltage control frown.gif
It's the entire reason I skipped the GTX600 series and if the next generation is a repeat, AMD here I come....as much as I don't want to....mad.gif
You could just stay with Fermi forever. 4 way 580s. biggrin.gif
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amd needs to work on their drivers first...i had 3 generations of amd cards and it was the driver support that made me switch
Haven't they fixed that by now? They even have better multi monitor support than Nvidia.
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It's true... The new EVGA 680 Classifieds shipped without the EVBOT plug that the old Classies did before it... Some people asked over at EVGA boards and got an official response.
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=1755509
Scroll to post 11 to read.

I dont think it is ok for nvidia to control the voltages, because the people who overclock with higher voltages are the ones that dont care if their card degrades faster because they are going to buy a new one soon anyway.

But still, this statement doesnt seem like it is the end for overclockera or nvidia.
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I dont think it is ok for nvidia to control the voltages, because the people who overclock with higher voltages are the ones that dont care if their card degrades faster because they are going to buy a new one soon anyway.
But still, this statement doesnt seem like it is the end for overclockera or nvidia.
You can still OC if you flash the BIOS; it's just that you don't get the same level of overvolting warranty coverage that you would normally get from companies like EVGA.
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i dont see how mutli monitor is gonna help if they refuse to fix existing bugs(3 series had serious flickering in GTA iv, 5 series has shadow artifacts in crysis) if they refuse to fix a product that's 3 generations old, how could i expect them to support a product that just came out?
For incredibly obvious reasons.
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The source from the vendor is reporting that if they do release an overvolted card, nVidia will stop sending them chips.
It's in the OP:
So it's actually a pretty big deal, and by the sounds of it, no you won't be seeing any unlocked variants.

this is cut out of context. the deal is that vendors (AIBs) have 2 choices:
a) make reference designs with locked max voltage auto-boosting and have them warrantied by nvidia
b) make own designs with overvolting and everything and no warranty from nvidia

that sentence you marked bold above was referencing to violation of the rules for a) and has nothing to do with b)
while b) is still an option, but vendors will have to provide end-consumers with their own warranty instead of counting on good uncle nvidia to pay for their broken designs...
Edited by feniks - 10/5/12 at 5:20pm
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this is cut out of context. the deal is that vendors (AIBs) have 2 choices:
a) make reference designs with locked max voltage auto-boosting and have them warrantied by nvidia
b) make own designs with overvolting and everything and no warranty from nvidia
that sentence you marked bold above was referencing to violating the rules for a)
while b) is still an option, but vendors will have to provide end-consumers with their own warranty.

I mean no offense, but you speak as if you haven't read both articles fully and don't really understand Kepler products.redface.gif
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