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I have a laptop with an AMD CPU and GPU.

I originally had a x920 BE quad but I'm downgrading to a P860 Triple Core.
The Phenom II P860 is 3 cores at 2.0GHz (512kb cache each) and the GPU is a 550v/4650m.
I have 4 GB of DDR3 RAM.

My current HDD is a 5400RPM 320GB harddrive.

I'm considering getting an SSD to decrease browser lag (my tabs sometimes lag 1-2 seconds when I click on them). I assume my CPU is too weak to full utilize the SSD's potential?


Furthermore:
I currently have a 160GB SSD (Intel X-25m) in my desktop. If I buy a newer 128GB SSD, should I transfer the larger but older Intel SSD in my laptop and transfer the newer but smaller SSD into my desktop?

The desktop is used by my family and I rarely use it. I know the Intel X-25m is a good quality SSD (Intel SSDs are generally very good quality) and have low failure rates compared to other SSDs (I've read some horror reviews about various OCZ and Gskill SSDs failing within a year)

My main concern isn't necessarily the size, but the quality/stability and the speed. I want a good durability but faster SSD in my laptop.
Edited by Bluescreendeath - 10/6/12 at 1:41pm
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You can realize benefits from a SSD on a Pentium 2 system - typical system memory and processors are going to be able to pull information much faster than a SSD could do - the only limitation you might have is if you have a SATA 3Gb/s or 6Gb/s connection - if you have a 3Gb/s you'll be limited to about 290 read, 280 writes, which are still significantly faster than a standard HDD.

Besides those benefits, you don't have as high of power consumption, along with virtually no seek time.
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290 read, 280 writes, which are still significantly faster than a standard HDD.

Just to add on this, the bandwidth isn't what makes the difference in speed. I've run RAIDed WD Blacks with bandwidth near this. Regardless of your "SATA Type", you will still notice -dramatically- lower access time, and that is what eliminates the lag.

SATA II and SATA III virtually had no discernable difference in access time on my Samsung 830, even if the raw throughput was halved.
    
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Thanks. At this point I'm not sure whether I should upgrade to the SSD or just save the money for an entirely new laptop because my CPU is too slow for it to be worth it. Hmmm...
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Just to add on this, the bandwidth isn't what makes the difference in speed. I've run RAIDed WD Blacks with bandwidth near this. Regardless of your "SATA Type", you will still notice -dramatically- lower access time, and that is what eliminates the lag.

I can validate this. I placed a Mushkin Chronos on my SATA I laptop (Intel Core Duo @ 2 GHz + 3 GB RAM) and boy, that thing flew.

I really doubt your CPU can bottleneck a SSD. Sequential reads may suffer due to the SATA port, but random+4k reads/writes along with lower access times are the most important reason to change a SSD, and those do not get too bottlenecked by a SATA II port.

Samsung 5400 RPM HDD


Mushkin Chronos SSD


I would get the SSD anyways. Even if it does not fix completely the lag you're having, it will give you a nice excuse to reformat, and in the "worst" case, you could use it on your new laptop.
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I can validate this. I placed a Mushkin Chronos on my SATA I laptop (Intel Core Duo @ 2 GHz + 3 GB RAM) and boy, that thing flew.
I really doubt your CPU can bottleneck a SSD. Sequential reads may suffer due to the SATA port, but random+4k reads/writes along with lower access times are the most important reason to change a SSD, and those do not get too bottlenecked by a SATA II port.
Samsung 5400 RPM HDD

Mushkin Chronos SSD

I would get the SSD anyways. Even if it does not fix completely the lag you're having, it will give you a nice excuse to reformat, and in the "worst" case, you could use it on your new laptop.

Awesome! Did you see improvements in application lag (ie. tab freezing or video freezing?)

Another question, When reformatting a laptop, do you know if you can use the OS validation key from the pre-installed OS on the laptop? How would I do a clean reformat without having to buy or acquire another OS?
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Awesome! Did you see improvements in application lag (ie. tab freezing or video freezing?)
Another question, When reformatting a laptop, do you know if you can use the OS validation key from the pre-installed OS on the laptop? How would I do a clean reformat without having to buy or acquire another OS?

To start with, i never had those issues. The SSD helped with tab loading though, my browsers are never under 30 tabs, so my only bottleneck was my internet speed. redface.gif Also, for video i used KMPlayer, video stuttering may be because of outated driver/codec, or just too high quality video. I could play most BD-rip videos on my ~2006 laptop though, after a bit of tweaking.

I do recommend formatting when a computer is slow, especially if it is not a "clean" OS, just make sure to get all the drivers (and drivers only) from the manufacturer website before. You could also dig into the hardware manufacturer websites (like AMD for the video driver) formore updated drivers, but some manufacturers change the hardware so the generic drivers do not work.

For the key usage, it is really a grey area. As long as you do not change the motherboard, Microsoft lets you use the same COA number, but that is with a retail version. I'm not too sure OEMs handle that though.
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To start with, i never had those issues. The SSD helped with tab loading though, my browsers are never under 30 tabs, so my only bottleneck was my internet speed. redface.gif Also, for video i used KMPlayer, video stuttering may be because of outated driver/codec, or just too high quality video. I could play most BD-rip videos on my ~2006 laptop though, after a bit of tweaking.
I do recommend formatting when a computer is slow, especially if it is not a "clean" OS, just make sure to get all the drivers (and drivers only) from the manufacturer website before. You could also dig into the hardware manufacturer websites (like AMD for the video driver) formore updated drivers, but some manufacturers change the hardware so the generic drivers do not work.
For the key usage, it is really a grey area. As long as you do not change the motherboard, Microsoft lets you use the same COA number, but that is with a retail version. I'm not too sure OEMs handle that though.

For the key usage, it is really a grey area. As long as you do not change the motherboard, Microsoft lets you use the same COA number, but that is with a retail version. I'm not too sure OEMs handle that though

IIRC the retail version is exempt from this? The only change that will invalidate a COA key on the OEM version is a new motherboard. (I've been using OEM'd copies for a while, Professional on a GA990XA and Ultimate on my C5R2).
    
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With Windows 7 and Vista uses the same Code key for both OEM and Retail.
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With Windows 7 and Vista uses the same Code key for both OEM and Retail.

Activation is different however. (I am still tired of having to call Microsoft).
    
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