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AG is intrinsic to the monitor. And it--no matter what your environment is like--affect what you see. This is because AG uses an imperfect surface to scatter reflected light away from you, but the double-edged sword is that it also slightly scatters light coming from the monitor, making pixel-level contrast significantly less crisp. This is to say, that external factors aside, an AG coated monitor will look fuzzier/sparklier than a glossy monitor. If you absolutely HAVE to sit in glare, then AG is for you, but it a fact that AG interferes with the light you see from the monitor which is by definition, a reduction in image quality.

That aside, has anybody here actually tried the 30Q5? It sounds like it some quality control issues, but If someone can testify otherwise, I'd love to order one from bigclothcraft.
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post #82 of 86
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Originally Posted by alcal View Post

AG is intrinsic to the monitor. And it--no matter what your environment is like--affect what you see. This is because AG uses an imperfect surface to scatter reflected light away from you, but the double-edged sword is that it also slightly scatters light coming from the monitor, making pixel-level contrast significantly less crisp. This is to say, that external factors aside, an AG coated monitor will look fuzzier/sparklier than a glossy monitor. If you absolutely HAVE to sit in glare, then AG is for you, but it a fact that AG interferes with the light you see from the monitor which is by definition, a reduction in image quality.
That aside, has anybody here actually tried the 30Q5? It sounds like it some quality control issues, but If someone can testify otherwise, I'd love to order one from bigclothcraft.

Finally someone who agrees with me. Thank you.

No haven't tried the 30Q5 yet.

However there's a thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1316035/crossover-30q5-pro-thread
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Originally Posted by alcal View Post

AG is intrinsic to the monitor. And it--no matter what your environment is like--affect what you see. This is because AG uses an imperfect surface to scatter reflected light away from you, but the double-edged sword is that it also slightly scatters light coming from the monitor, making pixel-level contrast significantly less crisp. This is to say, that external factors aside, an AG coated monitor will look fuzzier/sparklier than a glossy monitor. If you absolutely HAVE to sit in glare, then AG is for you, but it a fact that AG interferes with the light you see from the monitor which is by definition, a reduction in image quality.
That aside, has anybody here actually tried the 30Q5? It sounds like it some quality control issues, but If someone can testify otherwise, I'd love to order one from bigclothcraft.
The only issue I have with that stance is that it's basically saying "if we ignore the bad aspect about this monitor (because it isn't the monitor's fault), it's better than this other kind of monitor in this area." I think that is a very weak stance to take.

Especially given that by all metrics, the monitors Koehler speaks of with derision quite often have better image quality. He sticks on glossy vs AG/matte, arguably something personal, and fails to take into account contrast, uniformity, colour accuracy, bit depth, backlight bleeding, tinting and calibration. He even ignores colour gamut, which is a huge issue. All of which are also intrinsic and some of which are of arguably greater importance, and none of which are subjective.

As to your question, do you have any use for wide gamut displays (ie, you use wide gamut cameras with wide gamut printers and calibration, professional video cards and colour managed editing software)? If not, I'd avoid this one. Your colours will be all wrong (even if you calibrate).
post #84 of 86
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Originally Posted by alcal View Post

AG is intrinsic to the monitor. And it--no matter what your environment is like--affect what you see. This is because AG uses an imperfect surface to scatter reflected light away from you, but the double-edged sword is that it also slightly scatters light coming from the monitor, making pixel-level contrast significantly less crisp. This is to say, that external factors aside, an AG coated monitor will look fuzzier/sparklier than a glossy monitor. If you absolutely HAVE to sit in glare, then AG is for you, but it a fact that AG interferes with the light you see from the monitor which is by definition, a reduction in image quality.
That aside, has anybody here actually tried the 30Q5? It sounds like it some quality control issues, but If someone can testify otherwise, I'd love to order one from bigclothcraft.
The only issue I have with that stance is that it's basically saying "if we ignore the bad aspect about this monitor (because it isn't the monitor's fault), it's better than this other kind of monitor in this area." I think that is a very weak stance to take.

Especially given that by all metrics, the monitors Koehler speaks of with derision quite often have better image quality. He sticks on glossy vs AG/matte, arguably something personal, and fails to take into account contrast, uniformity, colour accuracy, bit depth, backlight bleeding, tinting and calibration. He even ignores colour gamut, which is a huge issue. All of which are also intrinsic and some of which are of arguably greater importance, and none of which are subjective.

As to your question, do you have any use for wide gamut displays (ie, you use wide gamut cameras with wide gamut printers and calibration, professional video cards and colour managed editing software)? If not, I'd avoid this one. Your colours will be all wrong (even if you calibrate). See this thread, since its got more info than the one on overclock.
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Originally Posted by kevinsbane View Post

The only issue I have with that stance is that it's basically saying "if we ignore the bad aspect about this monitor (because it isn't the monitor's fault), it's better than this other kind of monitor in this area." I think that is a very weak stance to take.
Especially given that by all metrics, the monitors Koehler speaks of with derision quite often have better image quality. He sticks on glossy vs AG/matte, arguably something personal, and fails to take into account contrast, uniformity, colour accuracy, bit depth, backlight bleeding, tinting and calibration. He even ignores colour gamut, which is a huge issue. All of which are also intrinsic and some of which are of arguably greater importance, and none of which are subjective.
As to your question, do you have any use for wide gamut displays (ie, you use wide gamut cameras with wide gamut printers and calibration, professional video cards and colour managed editing software)? If not, I'd avoid this one. Your colours will be all wrong (even if you calibrate). See this thread, since its got more info than the one on overclock.

Can you compare screen uniformity?
post #86 of 86
I'm worried about overclocking this. I had enough problems with the poor build quality of this monitor, I can't believe how crappy it is on the inside - Having had to open it and work on the inside, i would know.
Luckily it's got a heatsink on the main circuitry but its quite small, i suppose i could open it up and add a bigger one, but the video signal data ribbon cable is right next to it (my main problem to begin with was that came loose somehow.....)

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