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H80 sucks and high end air cooling stomps it? AND it's quieter? doh.gif Have you even USED a Corsair cooling product? My 'low end' air cooler, 212 Evo, took much more power and noise to keep less cool than my quiet H100.
On the Sabertooth 990fx. Incredible board. Possibly the best purchase I've made for my computer. It looks cool, built like a tank, and you shouldn't worry much about it breaking down on you.

Yes, I have. I have an H80 with two Nidec AP-30 (4250) on it. It's insanely loud, and the Phanteks TC14PE has very similar temperatures with it's stock fans. Lol

Edit for lols:

http://www.thelab.gr/heatsinks-coolers-watercooling-reviews/cpu-cooler-review-database-89014.html

Static heat load comparison. Notice noise.
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the UD5 and UD7 has big Vdrop compared to the UD3 could add the XA UD3 aswell since it's similiar to the FXA UD3 with minor changes and a cheaper price...
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Yes, I have. I have an H80 with two Nidec AP-30 (4250) on it. It's insanely loud, and the Phanteks TC14PE has very similar temperatures with it's stock fans. Lol
Edit for lols:
http://www.thelab.gr/heatsinks-coolers-watercooling-reviews/cpu-cooler-review-database-89014.html
Static heat load comparison. Notice noise.

You know, I've been thinking it for a while but I haven't said it yet. You think you know a lot, and it's possible you do. However the way you present data you come off arrogant and overall look dumb when you're incorrect. That and your user picture has been making me want to punch you every time I've seen you post. I'll explain to you why you look dumb.

You linked me to a page to prove what, noise levels of fans? And in relation to what, temperatures of a cpu? A STOCK CPU!? Air cooling can't touch water cooling as soon as you bump up the wattage! So while you're sitting there stress testing with your 4.2ghzOC with your fans blazing at full speed and your temps hitting near critical. Any water cooler will sit there pretty with low fan speed and still be cooler than your rig. Who CARES if the idle temps are the same, or temps on a stock cpu. This is OC.net my friend, people are here to push their rig to the limit. And in order to do that you simply CAN NOT GO WITH AIR COOLING.

Now let's talk about your INSANELY loud H80. Stock fans on Corsair coolers are loud themselves. Granted you can keep them on low settings even during heavy use and your cpu will still stay cool. You attached two ap-30s... that go up to 4250 rpm...? Let's re-read that, YOU ATTACHED A FAN WITH 4250 RPM AND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT NOISE!? The stock fans aren't NEARLY as loud as what you attached to them! And with all that noise just comes wasted energy since fans moving too fast at some point don't even pull away heat as it moves over it too fast.

Now to compare to my own experience. I have two ap-15s attached to my H100. The radiator is mounted underneath two 200mm pull fans with the two AP-15s blowing air up towards the pull fans. I used a 212 Evo, which is in no way a high end air cooler. Either way. Two ap-15s running at full speed constantly at 3.8ghz didn't give me the temps I have with my H100 at 4.2ghz under lowest fan speed. Attach them to a fan controller and I control the noise. My rig is faster, more compact, looks better, and is much quieter since my fans are at LOWEST SPEED.

For the "lolz". I'm pretty sure you're going to attempt a comeback since you don't want to admit you're incorrect. However, it will be ignored. Ask anyone with an overclocked rig why they have water cooling and not air. Ask anyone with air why they don't have a higher overclock. Air does not compare to water cooling. Period.
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the UD5 and UD7 has big Vdrop compared to the UD3 could add the XA UD3 aswell since it's similiar to the FXA UD3

This is highly dependant of the revision, I thought? Revision 1.0 all have bad vDroop, revision 1.1 seemed to have fix this. I used to have a 990XA-UD3 1.1, it didn't have very much droop at all, but it did have terrible transient load response.
    
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You know, I've been thinking it for a while but I haven't said it yet. You think you know a lot, and it's possible you do. However the way you present data you come off arrogant and overall look dumb when you're incorrect.

Never meant to seem arrogant, but over these Corsair coolers, it's just the truth. They are not "watercooling" they are just high end air. True watercooling obviously destroys air.
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You linked me to a page to prove what, noise levels of fans? And in relation to what, temperatures of a cpu? A STOCK CPU!? Air cooling can't touch water cooling as soon as you bump up the wattage! So while you're sitting there stress testing with your 4.2ghzOC with your fans blazing at full speed and your temps hitting near critical. Any water cooler will sit there pretty with low fan speed and still be cooler than your rig. Who CARES if the idle temps are the same, or temps on a stock cpu. This is OC.net my friend, people are here to push their rig to the limit. And in order to do that you simply CAN NOT GO WITH AIR COOLING.

Point was, static heat loads. At 300W+ an H80 can't even compare, and the H100 is only slightly ahead of the higher end air coolers. It is also much louder. My temperatures are nowhere near critical, nor have they ever been- and I've been using this clock for well over a year- with an H80, and now the TC14PE.
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Any water cooler will sit there pretty with low fan speed and still be cooler than your rig.

Rasa kit or custom water. Yes.
Corsair CLC, no.
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Now let's talk about your INSANELY loud H80. Stock fans on Corsair coolers are loud themselves. Granted you can keep them on low settings even during heavy use and your cpu will still stay cool. You attached two ap-30s... that go up to 4250 rpm...? Let's re-read that, YOU ATTACHED A FAN WITH 4250 RPM AND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT NOISE!? The stock fans aren't NEARLY as loud as what you attached to them! And with all that noise just comes wasted energy since fans moving too fast at some point don't even pull away heat as it moves over it too fast.

Point is, yes obviously, my Nidec fans are ridiculously loud compared to the Corsair stock fans. They also dramatically out perform them. I wasn't complaining about noise, merely the inefficiency of the cooler.
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Ask anyone with air why they don't have a higher overclock. Air does not compare to water cooling. Period.

Never said it did. Again, REAL water flattens air cooling. Current gen CLC watercooling is only slightly better however, even at its best.

Edit: Just wanted to appologize if I seemed like an ass, but hopefully this clears the confusion here.
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You know, I've been thinking it for a while but I haven't said it yet. You think you know a lot, and it's possible you do. However the way you present data you come off arrogant and overall look dumb when you're incorrect. That and your user picture has been making me want to punch you every time I've seen you post. I'll explain to you why you look dumb.

Yep, and when holes in his thought process or logic are exposed, he just denies them. If lurkers are watching, take what he says with a grain a salt.

The loudest person is generally not the most correct. wink.gif
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Yep, and when holes in his thought process or logic are exposed, he just denies them. If lurkers are watching, take what he says with a grain a salt.
The loudest person is generally not the most correct. wink.gif

You might have exposed some Pete, I can admit that. This one doesn't have holes in it though, at all- or if it does, I can attempt to fix them.
    
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H80 is not better than a high end air cooler. It just doesn't have enough surface area, or liquid volume. It's not even filled with water. It's basically an antifreeze/water mix. Not as efficient as heat pipes. On the bright side, an H80 is much more forgiving in a small case with low airflow.

Also. Corsair Vengeance sucks for overclocking on AMD platform.
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heh, I'd hit a road block with my own OCing at 3.8 Ghz, similar setup to what the OP was suggesting, same motherboard and everything, but I have vengance RAM, 4x4GB of it infact. now I know that the RAM is likely what's keeping me back... ::sigh:: maybe I should sell this stuff on craigslist and get that wonder RAM instead.
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