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I'am never EVER going to buy cheap - no brand RAM again,

Two days days ago i switched my 4GB single stick Samsung PC3-10600S for a 2 X 4GB Veritech PC3-10700 to enable DC mode,

What happened was that the SPD on the new Veritech RAM was so screwed up that the bios only found one compatible JEDEC which is 533MHz and defaulted back to 1066MHz instead of 1333MHz,

What more is that CPU-Z didn't even know the brand name or the part number of Veritech

Long story short, i returned them and got my old Samsung sick back, i also found something new (for me at least), while PC3-10600 denotes a speed of 1066MHz, any PC3-10600(S) stick is actually 1333MHz



Stay away from Veritech people! thumb.gif
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post #2 of 12
Generic RAM sucks, as do no-name merchants. I learned that early on after getting some generic sticks with incorrect SPD values from some fly-by-night operation. Sleazy merchants will try to stick you with a lower-speed product and hope you don't know how to check the SPD values because 99% of computer users don't even know what an SPD is. After that I only bought name-brand RAM from reputable merchants and only in factory-sealed packaging.
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QFT
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post #4 of 12
You realize that you're not 'bound' by JEDEC standards, right?
    
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post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

You realize that you're not 'bound' by JEDEC standards, right?

Indeed but the end result is a speed drop down to 1066MHz...NOT COOL thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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post #6 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by omari79 View Post


Indeed but the end result is a speed drop down to 1066MHz...NOT COOL thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

I still don't understand. You cannot select which speed your RAM will run at?
    
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post #7 of 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

I still don't understand. You cannot select which speed your RAM will run at?

On a desktop with a good/average Motherboard, YES
On a Laptop with an overclockable FSB, POSSIBLE (using setFSB)
On a Laptop with a locked E 450 APU like mine, NO
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post #8 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by omari79 View Post

On a desktop with a good/average Motherboard, YES
On a Laptop with an overclockable FSB, POSSIBLE (using setFSB)
On a Laptop with a locked E 450 APU like mine, NO

Ah well, bummer then. tongue.gif

You never once mentioned it was a laptop. wink.gif
    
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post #9 of 12
Since Veritech is not a big-brand name no one's going to know that name to avoid it!

But generally risks are taken when going with a brand-name that's not well-known, for any kind of computer hardware.
post #10 of 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

Ah well, bummer then. tongue.gif
You never once mentioned it was a laptop. wink.gif

You are right, but then again, i did create this thread in the Laptops and Notebooks section of this site smile.gif
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