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mikeaj wrote,
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I think with your budget, buying secondhand, the selection...

it is better to just use the power supply you have now. The only power supplies you seem to mention are not that good either. Save more money and see if you can find something better later. As mentioned before, your whole system should fit under 200W total, so you do not have a pressing need to upgrade over your current power supply, which is not that good but probably not going to mind an additional 50W from the graphics card.

My current one has no built-in 6 pin connector, released 8 years ago, has 264 W over +12V and most importantly there is a burn case associated with it u might know if u've read the first post of the thread.. So even if it's not the PSU that might be responsible for that, rather the poor quality of the dual molex to 6-pin converter is, that also suggests I should change my PSU. Because there isn't any guarantee the converter I'll be buying next is any better. They all seem like the same.
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post #32 of 43
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Originally Posted by Driimit View Post

mikeaj wrote,
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I think with your budget, buying secondhand, the selection...

it is better to just use the power supply you have now. The only power supplies you seem to mention are not that good either. Save more money and see if you can find something better later. As mentioned before, your whole system should fit under 200W total, so you do not have a pressing need to upgrade over your current power supply, which is not that good but probably not going to mind an additional 50W from the graphics card.

My current one has no built-in 6 pin connector, released 8 years ago, has 264 W over +12V and most importantly there is a burn case associated with it u might know if u've read the first post of the thread.. So even if it's not the PSU that might be responsible for that, rather the poor quality of the dual molex to 6-pin converter is, that also suggests I should change my PSU. Because there isn't any guarantee the converter I'll be buying next is any better. They all seem like the same.

The wires are not going to burn as a result of any problem of the (internal) power supply design. Either it was the cabling or the connector, adapter—as you suggest. The connection probably got loose, increasing the resistance, increasing the resistive loss (into heat) around that area. That's why I still thought that getting another adapter would not be a big deal. That's what I would do if on a tight budget.

What options do you have other than the Thermaltake TR2 RX 450W and the Gigabyte Superb E570?

If you want to buy something and other options are worse, then just get the Gigabyte.
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@mikeaj, thank you for your suggestion. Ya, maybe loose connection made the problem. But I still remember I was doing everything carefully from plugging in the cables to tightening up the screws specially because i was very excited about the gpu upgrade and wanted to do everything precisely. So though ur point is logical, I somehow cannot convince myself that the connection was loose... Or maybe it was... Who knows..

I, maybe later will post a thread on this along with the picture of the burned wire.

And regarding using the current PSU, I already gave an ad online for sale(with a price more than I bought it for) and someone apparently wants to buy it. So I won't be loser at least with this deal. So I will be buying a second-hand one for the time being as my current financial status and the unavailability of good PSUs within my budget in the first-hand market in my locality doesn't permit me to do otherwise... The PSUs you guys suggested could be bought easily should they be available.

Update: The Gigabyte one I was talking about is sold.

I have this now: http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001558

I know I posted it before and everyone was sure about how poor it was and I agree. However, in the current context, reply in view of what I wrote earlier
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Originally Posted by Driimit View Post

However note that, a PSU with a high efficiency, great power factor(~1) etc are not my primary concern. I need a PSU which will be able to supply my current PC(given in the signature) enough power when I overclock/overvolt my GPU and which is reliable enough not to burn any component of the PC in any case if overvoltage, oveload or other safety related occurrences occur.
Kindly, give your recommendation in view of that.

The gist is wanna buy one for now, which will just make the job done and nothing more, in terms of providing enough power while I OC and overvolt the GPU and ensures 99% safety against overload etc stuffs(just can't afford a burned gpu, mobo or cpu right now, seriously).


Update 2: Found another gigabyte psu, which probably is worse than the thermaltake one but will get it for half the price. I found out it actually comes with a Gigabyte chassis(though the seller bought it individually and selling like that) and got a review of it in nitroware.net.
Will it be good enough to serve my current purpose for now??(I'm copying some part of the review below in italic)

The case is available with and without a power supply. We elected with a power supply with the bundled unit being a Gigabyte branded supply of 420W peak power for 220/240VAC regions only. A single PCI express power plug is present as well as three SATA power plugs on two separate wires, which is more than the usual one or two on other generic power supplies.

The power supply started and shutdown our Intel Core i5-2300 test system correctly as well as operated under full load correctly with popular benchmarks.

We suspect the power supply was supplied from FSP as it featues FSP’s infamous ‘active PFC with noise killer’ stickers in a serif typeface which has adored FSPs power supplies over the years.




The PSU is labelled as follows, however labelling of wattages are vendor specific and can not be compared with other make or models.

+3.3V 21 A
+5V 20 A
+12V1 15 A
+12V2 15 A
-12V 0.5 A
+5VSB 2.5 A
+3.3 and 5V combined wattage max 105W
Continuous power 350W
Peak power 420W
Input Voltage 200-240VAC 50Hz
Power Factor Correction Active PFC



Enthusiasts using the case for a gaming or graphics system will want to use a different PSU more suitable for heavy duty purpose and capable of supporting large graphic cards. The bundled power supply is a basic unit, suitable for light duty computing.


Note, the psu label says the power in the +12V rail will not exceed 330 watt max whereas the Thermaltake one had 396 watt in this rail.
Edited by Driimit - 10/8/12 at 3:36pm
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Do you have any other options?

The only review I could find was for the 750 watt version:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-TR2-RX-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/902/9

The review says to avoid at all costs. It is also possible that the cheaper unit, 450 W, will be worse.
Edited by Biorganic - 10/8/12 at 3:22pm
 
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post #35 of 43
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@Biorganic and all, post 33 has been updated... Got another option.
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I never use built in PSUs unless possibly an Antec unit. That gigabyte has very little wattage alotted to the 12v rails and it is probably over-rated as is. Also that is a terrible review. It shut down and started correctly, and ran some benchmarks... That does not give any information really.

Any other options?
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post #37 of 43
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No, no other option right now or near future I guess. Just the two of it. So waiting for a green signal from anyone knowledgable in this regard.

P.S. My current PSU is supposed to be sold within 5 hour...Lol...
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Thats a tough call. if you have no other options, and very little is known about the gigabyte unit...

I looked up the model number on Gigabyte unit and it is not in the realhardtechx.com database. From what I can deduce it is most likely a cheap FSP design. Honestly I am not certain which is better. The gigabyte unit may be a newer design, maybe. The Thermaltake is a cheap CWT design. If both can only deliver half of their stated wattage then I would go with the Thermaltake as it has higher continuous power rating, whatever thats worth on a garbage unit. I cannot even believe I just typed that.

Honestly I don't know, you are gambling with either. Sorry

just to BE very CLEAR. I do not think you should buy either of them as both are bad units.
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post #39 of 43
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@Biorganic, Hmm, that means you're not even sure that each of them will be able to supply what they claim... Then there might be real problem. My first priority is to have enough power as I said.
Don't know what I'll be doing..
Thanks a lot for your continuous replies. I'll post later when I have any update.
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Hi again, got an option. It's Antec VP450P and it's first-hand.

These are the reviews I collected you can consider. The first one is relatively thorough, others are average.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-400w-520w_5.html

http://wccftech.com/review/antec-vp450p-psu-review-power-on-a-budget/

http://www.pakgamers.com/hardware-review/antec-vp450p-450w/

http://tech2.in.com/reviews/power-supplies/antec-vp450p-power-supply/237402#show

Judging them, I find it a reasonable enough PSU. What do you guys think??

P.S. It will be helpful if u reply fast as there are only 2 of them left in the store at the time of writing.
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