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some people can get pretty impatience...quite a bit of the time....
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post #102 of 119
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Basically no more news or bench on the FX8350???

Nothing of note, no. AMD has kept their last couple of launches pretty tight up until the end. It's not like the old days where meaty previews were plentiful and you could start ordering (not pre-ordering) CPUs on eBay almost a week before launch. Heck, we don't even see much in the way of photos or posts on Chinese or Taiwanese boards anymore where parts tend to be easier to obtain before release.
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does it include hot PR chick...
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All first generation complete redesigns for x86 tend to suck at first compared to their previous ones, you were better off with a cheap higher clocked 286 and more RAM than a 386 at first, same with the 386 and 486, 486 and Pentium, Pentium and Pentium Pro, Pentium III and Pentium IV, K6-3 and Athlon Classic and now Phenom II and Bulldozer. If people like you had any idea of computing history, they wouldn't be surprised by BD nor would they be saying ridiculous comments like you did in this post I'm quoting.

Remember it well, previous gen was always faster originally. I don't remember the 086-486 well but I remember going from 486DX4 to P60 and the P60 was by far inferior. Then came the P100 and 133 and they were faster. Then the P3 1GHz was faster than the P4 1.4.

Yeah, you could get a 386DX-40 with 8MB RAM from AMD or a 486-33 with 4MB RAM from Intel for the same price iirc, guess which one was far faster? The 486 had much higher IPC but was clocked so low that it wasn't able to fully beat the 386, the amount of RAM was the nail in the coffin.

Same thing with Pentiums, the P60 and P66 were utter crap unless you recompiled software and it was the type of software that could keep the Pentium busy, the second generation ones on a lower node with less voltage were far better and even had MMX instructions eventually, the Pentium Pro was a normal Pentium albeit a lot faster at 32bit applications (Really a niche back then), but it couldn't hold a candle to the MMX at the same clock speed for the majority of programs back then...And now we're nearly all using Pentium Pro derived CPUs. Bulldozer definitely will improve with time.
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Nothing of note, no. AMD has kept their last couple of launches pretty tight up until the end. It's not like the old days where meaty previews were plentiful and you could start ordering (not pre-ordering) CPUs on eBay almost a week before launch. Heck, we don't even see much in the way of photos or posts on Chinese or Taiwanese boards anymore where parts tend to be easier to obtain before release.

yeah that what im saying... not even taiwanese or chinese have any info which is really strange for a cpu that its supposed to be launch in 1 or 2 weeks.

i remember the old news about the FX6200 and FX4170, at the end they were just Pre overclocked CPUs.
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anyone know if distributors have chips yet?
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inb4 new cpu's work on 890FX boards. tongue.gif
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the Pentium Pro was a normal Pentium albeit a lot faster at 32bit applications (Really a niche back then), but it couldn't hold a candle to the MMX at the same clock speed for the majority of programs back then

This isn't how I remember it. The Pentium Pro was much faster at 32-bit code than the Pentium was, which you appear to agree on. The difference I have to say though is that the Pentium II was a major redesign instead of being virtually a Pentium. If anything, the Pentium and Pentium MMX belong to one family and the Pentium Pro and Pentium II belong to another. The Pentium II was essentially a cut down (ie cheaper to produce) Pentium Pro.

It's ancient history and largely unimportant by this point, but I happen to still be a Pentium Pro user.
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I can't view the video, it says that it's private? what's going on?!
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This isn't how I remember it. The Pentium Pro was much faster at 32-bit code than the Pentium was, which you appear to agree on. The difference I have to say though is that the Pentium II was a major redesign instead of being virtually a Pentium. If anything, the Pentium and Pentium MMX belong to one family and the Pentium Pro and Pentium II belong to another. The Pentium II was essentially a cut down (ie cheaper to produce) Pentium Pro.
It's ancient history and largely unimportant by this point, but I happen to still be a Pentium Pro user.

Are you typing this on your sig rig or what? wth.gif
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