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This is the 7th card that I am going to have to RMA now in the space of just over a year!

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Hi guys, I am a 17 year old student, who two years ago was fortunate enough to be able to build my own PC. I am by no means an expert when it comes to computer hardware, but I do know my stuff from reading guides on this site, help from my friends and watching guides on youtube. The following guide may seem like a wind up story by a Nvidia fanboy, but its not.So without further adieu here is my story:

So the first problems I started to have with my computer were with my radeon 6850 after about 6 moths of owning it. After playing a long nights session of bad company 2, the next morning the picture being sent to the screen was splitting in two. I did some troubleshooting and it turns out it was bad memory on the card. I decided to get a VTX3D 6950 (which I know is not that well known of a graphics card brand, but VTX3D basically use the same PCB's as powercolor cards) I defiantly noticed the performance bump from the 6850 to the 6950 but the games looked horrible - Even with the anti aliasing bumped up to the max the games still looked like there was no AA turned on at all. I got a lend of my friends 6870 and the picture was defiantly better on that card, even with the AA settings turned to the lowest setting. I RMA'd that card and amazon sent me out another one and the card was exactly the same. I decided to stick with it for a few months to see if AMD would release a driver update, but even with the subsequent driver updates, the games still looked the same so RMA'd it again.

I then, seeing all the great posts about the twin frozr iii cards, bought a tfiii 6950. nothing but problems with that card as well. The games, while they appeared to be performing as they should, the mouse movement seemed to be slower. When it comes to first person shooters, mouse movement is obviously vital. I could not simply try to bear with it so I sent it back to the retailer, and with the credit, bought the sapphire 7850. Games appeared to run slower than the benchmarks indicated but I decided to keep it until I noticed at 50% fan speed, it would make a horrible grinding noise. The retailer sent it back to the manufacturer and they deemed the "PCB to be unfixable" so there might have been another problem with the card apart from the fan.

I bought another 7850 since I was happy enough with it (apart from the fan issue) and I decided to purchase the asus 7850. When I installed it, I was extremely impressed with everything the card had. There was no mouse lag, the games performed better than on the sapphire but also looked as good as they did on my 6850 and the cooler kicked ass. I thought this card had no flaws with it until one night while playing FSX, the game crashed with a grey screen. This is a symptom of bad video memory and I rma'd it after some troubleshooting. I got an replacement from the retailer a couple of weeks ago (I only had the opportunity to play games this weekend) and while playing skyrim, I get textures flashing, black things just popping in in front of me randomly, etc. I also played black mesa source and was getting artefacts after an hours game play.

Before I got the sapphire 7850, I thought to myself there is no way in hell that I could have gotten so many bad cards in a row, so I decided to replace my gigabyte AM3 board with a Asrock 990fx extreme 3 and just after my 1st asus card died, a new corsair power supply but nothing has changed at all.

Really not happy with with this gaming computer and my overall experience with AMD cards. The only card I have been truly happy with was the 6850 since everything just worked as it should have. Is it normal to receive as much doggy cards as I did ? Are nivida cards better in terms of reliability? The Ironic thing is that I had an xbox 360 for a few years, and it never gave me one problem even though its considered to be an unreliable console. Nothing in my system is, or never was overclocked. I always take precautions when it comes to assembling PC hardware. For starters, I always make sure that I am grounded to prevent ESD, I never force components into the slot, etc. When going from different graphics card driver revisions, I ensure to always use driver sweeper and each January, I do a yearly windows reinstall.

Just to prove that this is real, here is my GPU-Z screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/3hH2y.jpg
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thats some really bad luck; faulty electronics parts always slip into the final consumer but your case seems like a really bad luck-streak :O

anyway, you know whats funny?? i jumped from Nvidia (apart from the prices here in my country) to AMD becuase i had endless problems with those cards, no matter the brand/generation i got... from the 4/5/600 series, didnt matter...

and i had a i7 930 back then btw
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AMD only designs the gpu. The problems you're having seem very odd. I've owned AMD/ATI cards as well as Nvidia cards for as long as I can remember and I've never had a problem with any of them. I've also never had driver problems, so it really confuses me when I read these rants about company X or company Y. Anyways, I'd chalk it up to ridiculously bad luck and get a properly functioning card and enjoy it. smile.gif

P.S. It's "definitely", not "defiantly" tongue.gif
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Sorry, being incredibly frustrated in addition to my dyslexia does not help my spelling at all redface.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by ChickenDippers - 10/7/12 at 9:39am
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Whoa that's some extreme case of bad luck.
Never had a problem with any cards especially AMD.

Nvidia 5000 series card No known problems.
Nvidia 7600GT No known problems
Nvidia 8600GT No known problems.
AMD Radeon 4670 No problems
AMD Radeon 4850 No problems
AMD Radeon 5770 No problems
AMD Radeon 6850 No problems
AMD Radeon 6870 No problems.

Not all of these cards are mine, they belong to siblings but never have we ever once had to RMA a card.
Every single one of those cards are still going strong, excluding the Nvidia cards which we no longer use and the 4670 which may be utilized in a newer build or given away to a friend.
Strange why that happened to your cards, perhaps you were buying from a not so good retailer?
Edited by TopicClocker - 10/7/12 at 9:43am
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Whoa that's some extreme case of badluck.
Never had a problem with any cards especially AMD.
Nvidia 5000 series card no known problems.
Nvidia 7600GT No known problems
Nvidia 8600GT No known problems.
AMD Radeon 4670 No known problems
AMD Radeon 4850 No known problems
AMD Radeon 5770 No known problems
AMD Radeon 6850 No known problems
AMD Radeon 6870 No known problems.
Not all of these cards are mine, they belong to siblings but never have we ever once had to RMA a card.
Every single one of those cards are still going strong, excluding the Nvidia cards which we no longer use and the 4670 which may be utilized in a newer build or given away to a friend.
Strange why that happened to your cards, perhaps you were buying from a not so good retailer?

I think the retailers I bought were all pretty reputable. Amazon goes without saying, its amazon! I also ordered off dabs, one of the UK/Irelands biggest component sites, and *shudders* pixmania. Every single component i ever bought was factory sealed, so there was no chance of fowl play.
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Lol, so with 1 card the picture looks bad, lots of aliasing. You RMA it for that?rolleyes.gif
Then surprise surpise the next card looks exactly the same?

Your problem lies between the chair and the keyboard I'm afraid.

You probably have your TV/monitor set up wrong or are not running at native resolution.
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I think the retailers I bought were all pretty reputable. Amazon goes without saying, its amazon! I also ordered off dabs, one of the UK/Irelands biggest component sites, and *shudders* pixmania.

My 6850 was brought from Amazon and I've had it for I think 6 months already and It's great and is doing great,
Me and my siblings mainly purchase from Overclockers or Novatech, I know of Dabs but haven't purchased from there, perhaps It's the brands?
I have an ASUS 6850, I don't think I'll get another Asus card, dont get me wrong It's a brilliant card but I heard their RMA is horrible frown.gif maybe I'll be in luck but the card may decide to live on over It's warranty.
My brother has an XFX 6870 and that's doing pretty well too, gets quite hot though.
And I think a Powercolor 4850 which is doing great still but It reaches 70-80Celcius on max which is worrying.
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Lol, so with 1 card the picture looks bad, lots of aliasing. You RMA it for that?rolleyes.gif
Then surprise surpise the next card looks exactly the same?
Your problem lies between the chair and the keyboard I'm afraid.
You probably have your TV/monitor set up wrong or are not running at native resolution.

Excuse me sir, I am not going to through all this for someone to say I am at fault here. I was using the EXACT SAME monitor/cable as when i was using my 6850. I was talking to AMD teir 2 engineers on the phone who also agreed that I should RMA it. I forgot to mention that I also tried it my friends computer and it still looked horrible, even on his setup.

Again, I am by no means a computer engineer but I think I know how to set up the native resolution for my monitor rolleyes.gif
Edited by ChickenDippers - 10/7/12 at 9:55am
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Oh and another thing, when you got each card did you wipe your GPU drivers? If you don't you'll surely run into a lot of problems, I switched from a 4850 to a 6850 and forgot to do this and It was quite a nightmare, when I finally got to everything was great!
Dont mean to insult you here, It's a pretty easy thing to forget..
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