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Worst luck i have ever heard x.x
I love my new 7950
I also had a 6850 before i upgrade and no problem wit both x.x my condolences gl future

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Back in the 80's I worked for Siemens in Switzerland.Siemens, Switzerland may have had 1000 employees,no more.Every employee had to attend a small "school" that lasted about 4 hours and the subject was ESD and how many returns ended up being caused by ESD. The actual number eludes me at this date but it was a substancial percentage.We were shown some neat photos taken with and electron microscope that showed circuit tracks inside of integrated circuits that were simply blown in half. Sending 1000 people to a half day school about EDS was quite an expense for Siemens (but in the typical European way we alll recieved a lunch voucher for the restaurant across the street
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I have not been working with wrist straps and while they do their job, it think its unnecessary in my situation. I have a wooden floor and I touch the grounded copper pipe leading into my radiator just before I go to assemble my computer (and touch the case just before as a precaution)

I have never used a wrist strap and I've torn down and rebuilt my pc more times than I can count without ever shorting something out.
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I have never used a wrist strap and I've torn down and rebuilt my pc more times than I can count without ever shorting something out.

+1
I've dealt with 7 different video cards (same as OP), and only had one "dud", and even so, that card was only unstable at stock speeds (but with a slight voltage increase it ran fine). And with those 7 cards, they have been moved around A LOT between 3 different computers until some of them were sold.

Bad luck or OP is doing it wrong, imo. It's borderline impossible to get that many bad cards.
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I don't see what I am necessarily doing wrong though? I have even built two systems for my friends over the years and they are working fine to this day (and I would be the first person to know if they weren't!) I am not a total newb when it comes to matters like this.
Edited by ChickenDippers - 10/16/12 at 1:15pm
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just fyi for those talking about ESD: make no mistake, you dont have to feel a static shock for you to do damage. You could be breaking things without even knowing. thumb.gif and ESD doesnt necessarily manifest itself in dead components, but components that act up.

i would venture to say a percentage of trouble threads on this forum such as unstable system at stock specs are caused by ESD or the end user.

a recommendation that I sometimes follow is to have the power supply plugged in to a grounded outlet and the rocker switch on the PSU turned OFF. This grounds the chassis and the components connected to it via the PSU. When i work on my computer i also dont use a strap, but i lean on a metal part of the case with my free arm.
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just fyi for those talking about ESD: make no mistake, you dont have to feel a static shock for you to do damage. You could be breaking things without even knowing. thumb.gif and ESD doesnt necessarily manifest itself in dead components, but components that act up.
i would venture to say a percentage of trouble threads on this forum such as unstable system at stock specs are caused by ESD or the end user.
a recommendation that I sometimes follow is to have the power supply plugged in to a grounded outlet and the rocker switch on the PSU turned OFF. This grounds the chassis and the components connected to it via the PSU. When i work on my computer i also dont use a strap, but i lean on a metal part of the case with my free arm.

That's the thing about ESD,you never know.We all tend to get careless over time,especially when you build a lot. I guarantee most pc builders here have damaged at least one component with ESD,and didn't even know it. thumb.gif
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That's the thing about ESD,you never know.We all tend to get careless over time,especially when you build a lot. I guarantee most pc builders here have damaged at least one component with ESD,and didn't even know it. thumb.gif

I straight zapped the crap out a memory module about a decade ago. back before they had nice heat spreaders covering the actual chips on them. Went to pick it up and just shocked the living daylights out of, it wasn't small either, I actually seen the arc smack it, right on a chip.

DEAD!

It was my own personal build so I wasn't wearing a strap.....and I had socks on....after walking across a rug. Yea, I know I know...I was just being extra lazy and feeling dangerous that day.
    
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Im overclocked to the moon, over volted, temps are kinda warm, never uninstall drivers when switching, dont ground my self, work on my PC when its on, everything in my PC is refurb or used.... no issues ever, WORKS GREAT! thumb.gif
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AMD only designs the gpu. The problems you're having seem very odd. I've owned AMD/ATI cards as well as Nvidia cards for as long as I can remember and I've never had a problem with any of them. I've also never had driver problems, so it really confuses me when I read these rants about company X or company Y. Anyways, I'd chalk it up to ridiculously bad luck and get a properly functioning card and enjoy it. smile.gif
P.S. It's "definitely", not "defiantly" tongue.gif

Good point here. AMD only sells the GPU. RAM issues and other production problems are usually the fault of the manufacturer. Not to say that AMD does not have their driver issues; they do, but what you are describing sounds like bad cards. I have owned ASUS, Gigabyte, and Diamond cards. I have had the best luck with Diamond from the "didn't have to RMA my card" department.

My wife prefers Nvidia cards. I like my AMD GPU. Good luck to you finding one that works for you.thumb.gif
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