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650 Ti come out next Tuesday for about $150, might want to wait for that.
Edited by sherlock - 10/7/12 at 5:21pm
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The 650 DDR5 is a better card than the 550 Ti, newer architecture does more with 128 bus. (note the HD 7770, a more powerful card is 128 bus,
marketplace:
Galaxy GTX 560 tI $130
Asus GTX 560 $100

Look good to me,
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Sweet, you all are giving me lots to think about. brasslad, that's the stuff I was talking about. It's only 128 bit, but newer architecture has to mean something, but what exactly. Sherlock just pointed out the 650 Ti is out soon as well.

With that said and looking at some Tom'sHardware stuff, I think I've been turned on to looking into the 560 series by snitchkilla11 and others. Maybe the only real apples to apples is to look at 560s against 660s and I really don't have that kind of dough for 660s so what I might be gaining in technology from 650 is still beaten by higher power from 560 (if that sounds right?).

I know there are more cuda cores with the newer 650s, but effective memory bandwidth is higher with 560's and clock speeds aren't that much slower than the 650s. So I think that means that I can still get more out of a 560 or 560 Ti, than I could get out of a 650 or even 650 Ti. Is that somewhat correct in my thinking, especially if I were to overclock it eventually?
    
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Quote:
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Sweet, you all are giving me lots to think about. brasslad, that's the stuff I was talking about. It's only 128 bit, but newer architecture has to mean something, but what exactly. Sherlock just pointed out the 650 Ti is out soon as well.
With that said and looking at some Tom'sHardware stuff, I think I've been turned on to looking into the 560 series by snitchkilla11 and others. Maybe the only real apples to apples is to look at 560s against 660s and I really don't have that kind of dough for 660s so what I might be gaining in technology from 650 is still beaten by higher power from 560 (if that sounds right?).
I know there are more cuda cores with the newer 650s, but effective memory bandwidth is higher with 560's and clock speeds aren't that much slower than the 650s. So I think that means that I can still get more out of a 560 or 560 Ti, than I could get out of a 650 or even 650 Ti. Is that somewhat correct in my thinking, especially if I were to overclock it eventually?

Yea GTX 560 is significantly faster than the GTX 650. You cannot compare the core count of the 600 series to 500 series due to the different architectures. 600 series have more cores, but each core is not as powerful as 500 series.

GTX 650 is not very good for the price. Definately look into a used GTX 560, or 560ti. They have much higher performance. Or alternatively go with a new 7770, or used 6850 / 6870 from AMD. All these options will have better bang for the buck.
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cuda cores dont mean much of nothing in gaming..
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get the gtx650 ti version ..its out now..available starting $149 for stock speeds and upto $174 for overclocked 2gb variants ..with free ASSASSIN'S CREED 3 game code when its out. totally worth it imo..
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Yea GTX 560 is significantly faster than the GTX 650. You cannot compare the core count of the 600 series to 500 series due to the different architectures. 600 series have more cores, but each core is not as powerful as 500 series.
GTX 650 is not very good for the price. Definately look into a used GTX 560, or 560ti. They have much higher performance. Or alternatively go with a new 7770, or used 6850 / 6870 from AMD. All these options will have better bang for the buck.


after even more input here and looking at my own stubbornness to try to maintain a price point, maybe I should re-think this and not be so stubborn. If you look at my rig, I certainly wasn't cutting corners, so maybe I started the wrong approach to look for a GPU if I am serious about starting to get into gaming. Yes, I've seen a 6850 in market place for sale, but $160...really. Brand new cards from both nvidea and AMD, even some with newer architecture are not much more, maybe $50-60 with rebates. I wish I could re-title the thread because now I want to perhaps ask a more apples to apples question. Let's really talk nVidea series comparisons that are supposed to be comparable based on the model numbers and I'll up my price point. 560 Ti vs. 660.

First, I preface this by telling you I like the MSI TwinFrzr cooling concept, that's just my opinion, so you're going to see two MSI versions to comment on. So, if you would indulge me, some feedback for a better comparison (or at least what I think from my understanding is intended to be a better comparison even though one is Ti and one is not, but they are similar series numbers and price points now). I've already seen some benchmarks that show the 660 (non Ti) does better than even a 580, never mind a 560, so maybe I am argueing with myself, but I still take great consideration into the opinions here as I'll tell you right now - I don't do gaming with any consistency and I'll take all opinions to better my understanding of these cards and ultimately what they'll do for my gaming experience in the future. Oh, just for some relevancy, I like racing games like F1 and military games with flight sim and other sim like operating tanks. rolleyes.gif


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127699
    
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Linus tested the 650Ti vs the 550Ti and the 650Ti was considerably faster BUT the 650Ti cannot be crossfired and the HD7770 was also faster.
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 10/10/12 at 9:40am
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Linus tested the 650Ti vs the 550Ti and the 650Ti was considerably faster BUT the 550Ti cannot be crossfired and the HD7770 was also faster.

yeah, I think everyone has convinced me to stay away from the 550 series and why I started talking 5 series and 6 series version 60s to compare. I think you replied at the same time as me not yet seeing my updated approach.
    
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I am looking for a new card right now and have about 200 dollar limit. So I have been watching this thread, great info.


I really have a hardon for EVGA and i'm looking at this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

EDIT

I just found this on another post, they say "This isn't even a debate. The 660 (NON TI) is faster than the 560 ti in every way."



Going to go ahead and get this which you linked
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127699
Edited by oxgon - 10/10/12 at 11:11am
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