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Poll Results: Whats your thoughts on the Asrock topic at hand

 
  • 30% (7)
    I beleive it, it makes sense, good information.
  • 69% (16)
    I'm not with this, i don't believe it, there is not enough evidence
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post #181 of 273
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Originally Posted by HPE1000 View Post

editied ^

done ... i got carried away
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Originally Posted by Renairy View Post

- Let me answer that for you Anandtech, you just think it's that low cause the sensorss are compromised!!!!!!!

SOURCE: ANANDTECH
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5842?cPage=3&all=False&sort=0&page=4&slug=asrock-fatal1ty-z77-professional-review-ide-and-floppy-on-z77

what does this proves? your link talks about the vdroop, not about software voltage reading accuracy.

fail....,
post #183 of 273
@Reinary
read the article that you posted carefully, 10x if it needs,
post #184 of 273
damn you got a lot of hits.
Edited by Sin0822 - 10/8/12 at 8:58pm
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post #185 of 273
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just a comment andatech, they can't read ripple though CPUz, riple is AC noise on a DC line, all they measure is CPUz voltage. But otherwise i don't like cpuz cheating, however it could just be a very bad sensor.
Just for future reference ripple can only be read in AC, and no software on a PC reads AC voltages. but anyways... that has nothing to do with this thread.

So to conclude Sin,
Would you agree that on the Asrock's Fatal1ty line, it is either

a) Cheating or
b) Bad sensor

I'm not asking you to decide, but you do agree that it has to be one of the above right?
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post #186 of 273
Wow I've read through the whole thread and the OP got so worked up by all the bashing. Not one single post provided solid evidence by anyone here in OCN. I'm going to report this thread to be closed as it is not going anywhere and no actual testing is being done by anyone.

@OP please edit your first post to reflect your findings on the fatality series boards. By claiming a whole company's line of motherboards are faulty or incorrect, you're just asking for trouble.

I can't believe how immature the major posters have been in this thread, I've only been a member for a few years but the community as a whole has really fallen to an all time low. Back when I joined, members would help each other find real scientific data on overclocking, but this thread shows what OCN has become: a place to clash egos and have 200 posts go by without any sense of community or goodwill. I can understand why so many veteran members have been leaving.
    
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However, motherboards have settings relating to load line calibration. As load is applied to the CPU, the voltage across the processor decreases (VDroop). Load Line calibration essentially attempts to control this level of droop, by increasing voltage when voltage drops are detected away from a fixed value. Manufacturers have different ideas on how to modify LLC with respect to load, or whether the level of modification should be controlled by the user. Some manufacturers offer the option at a variety of levels, such that overclockers can be sure of the applied setting (even if it increases peak voltage, as explained by AnandTech in 2007).

By doing a full load OCCT test, we are essentially determining both how aggressive the motherboard is reporting the CPU voltage under load and how aggressive load line calibration is performing (from the point of view of the user without an oscilloscope or DVM). If someone has one of the motherboards we have tested and you have a different one, variations in load voltage should describe the offset you may require for overclock comparisons.

GRAPH

ASRock has pulled a fast one on the Fatal1ty Z77 Professional. So far on all the boards I have tested, default settings give load voltage around the 1.050 volt mark on the i7-3770K. With the Fatal1ty Z77 Professional, the load voltage is almost 0.100 volts lower, at 0.956 volts. This opens up a can of worms – is this standard across processors? Will all processors still act fine at stock at this voltage? I know from testing that the processor I have will run at stock at 0.900 volts set in the BIOS, but can ASRock be sure that all processors will do this? It is a very interesting prospect.


this article is about asrock's LOAD LINE CALIBRATION and VDROOP at stock settings, 3.5ghz

the first bolded part talks about the default voltage (VID) of 3770K which is 1.050v, under load the voltage drop (VDROOP) is almost 0.100, thus reducing the voltage under load to 0.956v

the second bolded part is the author talking about him having a 3770K which can run at stock speed of 3.5ghz using only 0.900v, but he doubts that all 3770K processor can run at stock speed with this this low voltage settings,


THIS ARTICLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD
Edited by ghostrider85 - 10/8/12 at 9:18pm
post #188 of 273
It almost looks like you had the Power Saving Mode on in the BIOS, can you confirm this? I dont know what the setting does, but rumour has it it drops vcore.

If you really just want to know what the CPU is requiring, just look at the VID. They should be comparable between motherboards.
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It has everything to do with this thread.
They tested with CPU-z and when you combine Anandtech, my experience with the Russian overclockers experience, you get the conclusion..
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