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Ahh, no dual vs quad debate would be complete without Steelbom insisting that quads only get used in minute situations.

Wrong, but I'm not going there again with you. Lol I showed enough evidence last time.
What's your problem? I worded my post very clearly to show that it's my opinion that your average joe won't utilise a quad-core on a mobile OS. I didn't state it as a fact and you should be happy with that -- it is after all what you asked me to do last time.

I'm not getting into it either. I clearly stated my post was opinion (or at least I meant that part of it) for that very reason. Nevertheless I did say "aside from your technology enthusiast" which is a category you most definitely fall into.
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What's your problem? I worded my post very clearly to show that it's my opinion that your average joe won't utilise a quad-core on a mobile OS. I didn't state it as a fact and you should be happy with that -- it is after all what you asked me to do last time.
I'm not getting into it either. I clearly stated my post was opinion (or at least I meant that part of it) for that very reason. Nevertheless I did say "aside from your technology enthusiast" which is a category you most definitely fall into.

As i stated earlier, the quad core might not be being utilized to its full potential, but you can not deny the fact that the us version is crippled compared to the international version, the utilization is another story.

Yes i am ok with my dual core galaxy s3, but it would be better if it's a quad core, it doesn't matter if my phone doesn't really needs quad core, a dual core is a dual core, a quad core is a quad core.
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As i stated earlier, the quad core might not be being utilized to its full potential, but you can not deny the fact that the us version is crippled compared to the international version, the utilization is another story.

Yes i am ok with my dual core galaxy s3, but it would be better if it's a quad core, it doesn't matter if my phone doesn't really needs quad core, a dual core is a dual core, a quad core is a quad core.
It may be plain and simple if they were both the same architecture but they're not. The choice is between a dual-core with a better architecture (Krait) over a quad-core with a worse architecture.
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The whole crippled argument makes me laugh. You can go both ways.

The International Galaxy S III has a gig less RAM, and so it's RAM "crippled"..

The International lacks LTE, which means it's data "crippled"..

Let's see, have quad core phone, gain negligible performance gains, or get LTE, and gain significant data speed increase.

Tough call.
post #125 of 154
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What's your problem? I worded my post very clearly to show that it's my opinion that your average joe won't utilise a quad-core on a mobile OS. I didn't state it as a fact and you should be happy with that -- it is after all what you asked me to do last time.
I'm not getting into it either. I clearly stated my post was opinion (or at least I meant that part of it) for that very reason. Nevertheless I did say "aside from your technology enthusiast" which is a category you most definitely fall into.

Android uses all four cores, so even average Joe will use them. My problem is that you get stuck in an infinite loop on this "no-one will use them" idea, where it's not true down to how Android uses the cores. Android uses the cores regardless of apps and therefore they benefit everyone and everything.
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The whole crippled argument makes me laugh. You can go both ways.
The International Galaxy S III has a gig less RAM, and so it's RAM "crippled"..
The International lacks LTE, which means it's data "crippled"..
Let's see, have quad core phone, gain negligible performance gains, or get LTE, and gain significant data speed increase.
Tough call.

They are definitely data crippled, but the quad isn't negligible performance to be honest. They ARE utilised on all four cores by Android. Also, they have less RAM but don't score any worse on memory and I/O tests. That said, the GT-i9305 looks tempting, but only for the 2GB as I have zero interest in being price gouged by UK carriers on LTE. If my network (Three) has their AYCE data plan available on LTE, THEN I'll be interested but I highly doubt it. LTE over here is going to be price raped so hard whatever is left will be a mess.

Also, what kind of data caps do you have on LTE? Because my HSPDA is unmetered, so I'd rather have that than expensive LTE contracts and data caps, to be honest.

But yeah, It can go both ways, but I was mainly just talking about performance. It's a dual core that's ~ half the performance of the quad in benchmarks, therefore it's a gimped version of the Exynos version. I don't know why Zephik took that to heart but yeah. It's still a great phone and the differences real world are hardly notiable (for now anyway).
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The whole crippled argument makes me laugh. You can go both ways.
The International Galaxy S III has a gig less RAM, and so it's RAM "crippled"..
The International lacks LTE, which means it's data "crippled"..
Let's see, have quad core phone, gain negligible performance gains, or get LTE, and gain significant data speed increase.
Tough call.

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iphone5 -
Better build quality by far
Better camera
More stable OS
Those are the 3 things that should count the most for me.
Both screens seem to be on par with each other but in the end the retina display should have the edge.
As far as overall speed they are both to close to see a real world difference.
GS3 -
Inferior build quality
More storage for cheaper which i can appreciate
More customizable OS which i could care less about but most see it as a strong point(And like any other Andriod based OS expect force closes)
s3 has better camera imo by far my s2 4G HD beats the iphone 5 in most ways on paper!
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um the 4G version is out for a while now soooo?
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um the 4G version is out for a while now soooo?

I know, I have a the VZW variant. Love it.
    
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What's your problem? I worded my post very clearly to show that it's my opinion that your average joe won't utilise a quad-core on a mobile OS. I didn't state it as a fact and you should be happy with that -- it is after all what you asked me to do last time.
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I don't get stuck into an infinite loop about it -- that's not even what I said. You should know what I mean when I say "utilise", I certainly am not talking about Android "using" each core by a small amount. I'm talking about the average joe actually using the quad-core to an extent where the dual-core wouldn't be feasible, e.g., at 50-70%+ each core. You could stick a sixteen core processor in there and it could still "use" each one of the cores but that doesn't mean the user is fully utilising and taking advantage of that processor.

It's like saying a four-lane highway with a speed limit of 100 is better than a two-lane highway with a speed limit of 120 despite there not being enough traffic to cause any slow downs on the two-lane highway. The traffic on the two-lane highway is going to get to their destination sooner.
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