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All my friends have iPhone and I constantly get called an idiot for not buying an iPhone

The single most annoying aspect of iPhones.
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Hi guys, OP here. Lots of good discussion and I'm absorbing every word. I just have two questions.

Is the Android able to be heavily tweaked and modified (interface, widgets etc) without rooting? I'd rather stay away from the rooting business until I'm more familiar with Android, like someone said.

Let me put it this way: My first Android device was a Nexus S. Previously I had the iPhone 3gS and iPhone 4. To do the things I could do on my unrooted Nexus S on my iPhone, I'd have to jailbreak my iPhone.

Change launcher, change theme, change icons, change widgets... make the device unique. No rooting required.

Rooting isn't really about customizing. It's about being able to install custom kernels/firmware so you get the most out of your device. Example, instead of having to wait for Jellybean, you can simply install a Jellybean rom yourself on your rooted device.

edit: BWAHA I just realized I totally contradicted myself: "Rooting isn't about customizing. It's about being about to install custom..." WHATEVER, you know what I mean. tongue.gif

And roooting is SO easy! Literally man, I'm a moron when it comes to things like that and I did it with no issue. XDA makes it so people like myself can do it without blowing the phone up. XD

When I got my Nexus S, however, I didn't root. When you come from an iPhone (which I jailbroke and tweaked the crap out of it), and get so much freedom without having to root, you wonder, "Why root?"

Then you root (as I did my Galaxy S II because I thoguht touchwiz sucked), and get opened up to so many amazing roms and you're like, "OMG, why did I use an iPhone!?!!!!"

Seriously. Now, that's not to say the iPhone is a bad device. Some people like it. I have friends that love their iPhone devices, and didn't seem impressed when I tried my sales pitch on my Android device. >_>



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The quad core S3 is quite a bit better than the S4/Adreno combination, though and think of it like this. What speeds do you get with HSDPA+ do you always get the rated speeds? 21Mbps? I'll wager at best you get 12Mbps and on a bad day, 2Mbps. More LTE phones, less saturated H+. Also, how much are your 4G data plans? There's the LTE variant out here in the UK soon and I don't trust any of the providers not to gouge the price.

I read some reviews and I'll give you that it's better, but better enough to have slower outdated data? Nah.

Honestly, HSPA+ here depends. I normally get between 4-5mbps. Honestly man, I wish I could lie and tell you it's better. I know dudes on LTE devices in my area reaching 30mbps. Even higher.

Btw, I'm not complaining about my data speeds. But, if I were to buy a new phone right now... not having LTE would be pointless. Look, no matter how many cores my phone has, if I'm on HSPA+, it's not going to matter. I'm still stuck at 5mbps. While that other dude with his dual core, he's next to me downloading content at 30mbps.

Which on if us is going to care how many cores our CPU has then?

Btw, I want to add that I am not saying it's bad to have a quad core cpu... but I rather, personally, have LTE in my next upgrade. Even if it means having a dual core instead.
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Let me put it this way: My first Android device was a Nexus S. Previously I had the iPhone 3gS and iPhone 4. To do the things I could do on my unrooted Nexus S on my iPhone, I'd have to jailbreak my iPhone.
Change launcher, change theme, change icons, change widgets... make the device unique. No rooting required.
Rooting isn't really about customizing. It's about being able to install custom kernels/firmware so you get the most out of your device. Example, instead of having to wait for Jellybean, you can simply install a Jellybean rom yourself on your rooted device.
And roooting is SO easy! Literally man, I'm a moron when it comes to things like that and I did it with no issue. XDA makes it so people like myself can do it without blowing the phone up. XD
When I got my Nexus S, however, I didn't root. When you come from an iPhone (which I jailbroke and tweaked the crap out of it), and get so much freedom without having to root, you wonder, "Why root?"
Then you root (as I did my Galaxy S II because I thoguht touchwiz sucked), and get opened up to so many amazing roms and you're like, "OMG, why did I use an iPhone!?!!!!"
Seriously. Now, that's not to say the iPhone is a bad device. Some people like it. I have friends that love their iPhone devices, and didn't seem impressed when I tried my sales pitch on my Android device. >_<</div>

Yep, rooting is like going one step further. E.G. Just installed a custom launcher? Good, now delete the existing one from system/app/ !
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Let me put it this way: My first Android device was a Nexus S. Previously I had the iPhone 3gS and iPhone 4. To do the things I could do on my unrooted Nexus S on my iPhone, I'd have to jailbreak my iPhone.
Change launcher, change theme, change icons, change widgets... make the device unique. No rooting required.
Rooting isn't really about customizing. It's about being able to install custom kernels/firmware so you get the most out of your device. Example, instead of having to wait for Jellybean, you can simply install a Jellybean rom yourself on your rooted device.
And roooting is SO easy! Literally man, I'm a moron when it comes to things like that and I did it with no issue. XDA makes it so people like myself can do it without blowing the phone up. XD
When I got my Nexus S, however, I didn't root. When you come from an iPhone (which I jailbroke and tweaked the crap out of it), and get so much freedom without having to root, you wonder, "Why root?"
Then you root (as I did my Galaxy S II because I thoguht touchwiz sucked), and get opened up to so many amazing roms and you're like, "OMG, why did I use an iPhone!?!!!!"
Seriously. Now, that's not to say the iPhone is a bad device. Some people like it. I have friends that love their iPhone devices, and didn't seem impressed when I tried my sales pitch on my Android device. >_<</div>

Yep, rooting is like going one step further. E.G. Just installed a custom launcher? Good, now delete the existing one from system/app/ !


I know. It's sad though, I have quite a few friends using Android devices that don't root. I'm like, "Why buy an Android?"

It's perplexing.
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I have the S3 right now. I'm switching to the iPhone 5 in a few days here. One thing about the S3 is the battery life is pretty horrendous. I think its due to the big screen requiring a lot of power. The customization is pretty good with widgets and stuff, but I'm more used to iPhones jailbroken customization. Speaking of the S3, I have the north american one, which is apparently really bad and only a dual core, but with 2 GB of ram. The ram is nice, but the CPU kinda sucks.
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I have the S3 right now. I'm switching to the iPhone 5 in a few days here. One thing about the S3 is the battery life is pretty horrendous. I think its due to the big screen requiring a lot of power. The customization is pretty good with widgets and stuff, but I'm more used to iPhones jailbroken customization. Speaking of the S3, I have the north american one, which is apparently really bad and only a dual core, but with 2 GB of ram. The ram is nice, but the CPU kinda sucks.

^ Hm.... not sure if serious...
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The only significant change for the US versions of the Galaxy S III is that they're powered by Qualcomm's 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4 processor rather than Samsung's quad-core Exynos SoC, which is inside the international handset. The Exynos is a serious workhorse, but the S4 is no slouch, and as we've seen time and again it's one of the most capable processors available. In our benchmark tests the AT&T Galaxy S III measured a hair slower than the Exynos, but its scores across the board were still at the very top end of Android handsets

Source: The Verge

You were saying, Apple employee?
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The Exynos is actually a fair bit faster. Not quite double but close. The GPU is much better(Malu-400 vs Adreno 225).

As ffor the battery life being bad? Pffft maybe on Mars. I hammer my battery and usage no problems at all. I canget 2 hhoursscreen ttime with music and games and only lose 30% which suits me fine on the way to university. I chargeaagain when I get there, just because. The day i left my USB lead at home I still managed to continue using my phone normally and he home before the battery packed in. 6:30am - 6:30pm
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The galaxy is the better choice for anyone with the knowledge to build their own pc.
Androids and iPhones are like this.
  • Most People with Android: Crappy Windows Laptops from Bestbuy (crap battery, cluttered, slow)
  • iPhones: Macbooks (Good battery, ""it works..."" (i disagree with this statement but whatever), fast)
  • High End Android in the Hands of Someone Who is Good with tech: A custom gaming rig like the one in your sig.

You dont need a high end android to have it perform well...

those "Crappy windows laptops from bestbuy" can run good as well
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Wrong.

iPhone 5: lower resolution, worse camera suffering from lens flare issues, worse OS with low customization but roughly as stable as an Android.
Galaxy S3: higher resolution, superior camera with zero shutter lag, more storage, has a microSD slot that supports up to 64GB mSDXC cards which cost around $50 for a Sandisk Ultra... much more customizable OS that tailors itself to you, not the other way around. Stability is top notch, I've owned one since launch and not a single force close, only restarted it once due to it running out of power after not having charged it a couple of days with moderate use.

Build quality is roughly the same. The iPhone 5 is made of "better" materials but the quality of the build is close, and unless you're a butter-fingers tween who drops their phone constantly, drop tests are meaningless.

Oh, and the Galaxy S3 has a larger screen which is nice for reading websites and for gaming/video watching.

Really, unless you wear pants with small pockets (the GS3 is light/thin, but larger diagonally) I can't picture why you'd choose an iPhone 5 over the GS3 at this point in time. I'm not saying the iPhone 5 sucks or anything, but the GS3 is just that much better.

Resolution doesn't matter so much, pixel density does and the 5 wins on that one. The 4S' camera rivals the one in the S3, the 5 has even better low light performance. The lens flare is slightly worse than on the 4S from a comparison I've seen.

On top of that, the 5 has a much better GPU and is winning all the real world benchmarks like SunSpider, Peacekeeper, etc., and its display covers the full sRGB colour spectrum.
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Galaxy..

Pros:
Better processor/GPU (I think so for the GPU anyway)
Bigger Screen (iPhone is too long to actually use properly)
Apps are mostly free, you can just install .apk's and no need to buy them all.
Memory Card slot (for all those photos/videos/notes)
More customisable
Better updates to the OS (not just stuff like Facebook intergration that Android has had for years)
Removable battery (if it dies its replacable)
Generally a substantial amount cheaper then an iPhone.
Intergrated Google services (Maps, Voice etc) whereas the iPhone 5 has Apple maps which is utter rubbish. (It marks my house as a green lake?)
Standard USB connector, not the new connector that NOBODY has.


Things they share:
Camera is similar
Most apps are the same/you can find one on android that does the same thing for free usually.

Cons:
All those apps you bought will be gone.
Apple has rather good support (you get what you pay for?)

All in all the Galaxy S3 is the better phone no matter what way you look at it,
I know this as my Sister/Her BF have Galaxies that I got them online (for cheap) and she was going to buy a iPhone4s/5 and i warned her not to, she ended up getting two better phones with more space for only a bit more then the 32GB iPhone she was looking at.

All my friends have iPhone and I constantly get called an idiot for not buying an iPhone, I've used all their Macs, iPhones and iPads and I just laugh at how terrible they are for the prices they paid. They keep trying to compare their $800-$1000 iPhone 4s' to my $150 Wildfire S. Even comparing a $450 3gs is pointless. The only thing my phone doesn't do compared to theirs are a few apps that need the processing power and Siri on the 4s'.

To me, personally iOS/Apple devices are consoles of the phone world. Overpriced premium rubbish that is all mainstream. The funniest part is half the people that own them are teenage girls that only text/call or older people/businessmen that only call.

EDIT: I know of 2 people that use iPhones to their full potential, that is a mate who is an apple fanboy and works in audio, and my audio teacher who uses it for all the apps such as a frequency response graph (you can get it on Android too though)
The S3 with the dual-core 1.5GHz S4 is better than the dual-core 1.3GHz A6, but the quad-core is worse than both of them in single threaded performance which is far more important imo. The 5 is winning all the real world benchmarks at the moment -- SunSpider, Peacekeeper, BrowserMark, and it's on par with the dual-core 1.5GHz S4 in other tests. Also the GPU in the 5 is about twice as powerful as the GPU in the S3.
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1) Reorientating my hands around the phone is considered perfect for me. I don't struggle using my phone with one-hand. I mainly reorientate my hands on phone if im reaching for the status bar and to pull it down.
2) Biased site? I just did a simple Google search.
3) One picture? there are multiple pictures. Do a google search and you will see many complaints about the iPhone 5's camera. It is a problem for many users.
4) I don't use the iPhone 5, but I certainly read and observe screenshots posted by iPhone 5.
brooklyn-bridge-apple-maps.jpg
6) It's a problem and a complaint. Apple's response is incorrect, as they are trying to do something about it they are telling Foxconn employees to do a better job. Do a Google Search on this. I'm not here to lecture you.
Like I said before, it's not what a manufacture does as a defect. Every company has defects. Intel had a defect on their boards upon the arrival of Sandy Bridge. They fixed it in a well-responded matter; whereas, Apple is like "nope you're holding the phone wrong" when it comes to death grip. I'm not a lawyer and here to defend every phone company so I don't even understand why you're bringing third-party subjects to this conversation or how it even started because it's 2 AM and you literally typed like a three page report to me to defend yourself over a internet forum which is pretty pathetic.
I'm not even going to bother reading the rest, there is absolutely no point in this argument and have no relevance to the OP.
tl;dr: Apple responds to customer complaints in the wrong way. Every company does defects, the ones who admit their problems are the ones I respect. Apple is certainly not one of them.
Camera problem? Oh that's normal.
Maps? Not even going to go there as I included a image of flat bridges.
Chipping? Force Foxconn employees to do a better job with 0.2%
Death Grip? You're holding the phone wrong.
Patent "Slide to Unlock"
Patent troll companies
No thanks, Apple.
But anyways, keep defending Apple who strives to kill and destroy all forms of competition when it comes to the mobile phone business and yourself over a internet forum, tough guy. Ignored & blocked.

Lol, wow. Reading your responses I hope that English is not your first language. Comprehension is very, very low. Lol at the exaggerations like 3 page report and other gems. So when I poke holes in your argument it turns into" Yo whateva keep defending Apple, im out". All I was doing was refuting some incorrect or personal opinions you put out in the first place.

I can tell that nothing I typed you could actually comprehend so I'm done, but thanks for playing:thumb:
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