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I may have exaggerated. It's a dozen that have landed on Mars, don't know how many in orbit on Mars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_on_Mars

EDIT: Here are all sent:


http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/chronology_mars.html

That's more than I knew of actually, but it looks like the total cost between those in the last 50 years is probably still well under 50 billion, or around enough money to run the U.S. military for about 3 weeks.

Anyway, we've drifted far off topic, my point was simply that while this spacejump will be awesome to watch, it is not nearly as beneficial for science as something like the Mars Curiosity rover.
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Updated the original post with new info.
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Trillions? Probably not even close to that amount. The Curiosity mission cost a little more than 2 billion dollars.
And hopelessly? What qualifies you to make such an accusation?
Breaking the sound barrier in a suit is interesting, and probably has some scientific benefits and applications, but it's not even in the same ballpark as the understanding of planets outside our own in terms of benefits or importance. Is this event cool? Sure. Important? Not very much.

That's where you're actually wrong. The suit that he'll be using during the jump is a prototype that is being worked on for future use by astronauts and the military...unless you just want us to keep sending robots into space?

http://www.redbullstratos.com/science/scientific-values/
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That's where you're actually wrong. The suit that he'll be using during the jump is a prototype that is being worked on for future use by astronauts and the military...unless you just want us to keep sending robots into space?
http://www.redbullstratos.com/science/scientific-values/

Did you even read his post?
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Because robots do just as well of a job as humans, right? This suit could be the tipping point for furthering the cause of ACTUALLY putting humans in space, not tin cans with wheels.
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Because robots do just as well of a job, right? This suite could be the tipping point for furthering the cause of ACTUALLY putting humans in space, not cans of tin.

We've already got people in space. We could easily get somebody to Mars, the problem is the cost, it's much cheaper to send robots. Again, I'm not saying this suit is not important, I'm saying its benefits are probably outweighed quite a bit by the latest Mars Rover and related missions.
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Because robots do just as well of a job as humans, right? This suit could be the tipping point for furthering the cause of ACTUALLY putting humans in space, not tin cans with wheels.

Advancements tested in this jump will help in many areas, but I fail to see how it will be beneficial for the most critical for deep space exploration: protection from radiation.
 
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So what happens if he succeeds? The government will start making small rockets that they can launch into brief orbit to rain down troops from the sky onto enemy battlegrounds. This will bring us one step closer to warhammer 40k drop pods.

There will be no more front or back lines because we can just drop troops behind enemy lines this way.

OR...... his body explodes in his suit during entry, turning him into a human gusher. Back to the drawing board.
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Wow.  A few points need to be addressed here:

 

  1. This is no more or no less important than anything else, such as space exploration.  It's simply different.  It's pointless to turn these kind of things into a competition because then it misses the whole point.  Do you care about our advancement or not?  Why compare anything to anything?  Let it be what it is and enjoy it for what it is.
  2. There are many reasons why this is being done.  One of them is explained in the 6th paragraph in this news article:  http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/10/08/skydiver-record-breaking-supersonic-freefall/  (I also mentioned it Post #60 of this thread)
  3. He's nowhere near being high enough to "burn up on re-entry".  Do you think they don't know what they're doing?  Besides, he'd have to go up another 40 miles for that, but then he wouldn't have any gravity to pull him down.  He's merely extremely high up in the air, 120,000 feet up to be exact (or 22.72727272727273 miles up).
  4. Watch the special CGI video that they made.  They're showing that when he jumps from this altitude, he'll instantly reach speeds of 400-600 MIPH because of how thin the air is up there.  This is why they think he has a chance of exceeding the speed of sound.
  5. See below:

 

 

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So what happens if he succeeds? The government will start making small rockets that they can launch into brief orbit to rain down troops from the sky onto enemy battlegrounds. This will bring us one step closer to warhammer 40k drop pods.
There will be no more front or back lines because we can just drop troops behind enemy lines this way.

 

No, because anyone who would attempt this would be vulnerable on their way up.  Of course, they'd also be vulnerable on their way down.

 

 

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OR...... his body explodes in his suit during entry, turning him into a human gusher. Back to the drawing board.

 

He's not high enough for this to be a risk.  Don't you trust that they know what they're doing?  If it were not safe for him to be up that high, then they wouldn't even be attempting this.  Besides, they say that space begins at 62 miles up which is 327,360 feet high.  So, he has another 40 miles to go before he starts running the risk of "burning up on re-entry", or any other kind of stuff like that.

 

However, if his skin were to be exposed at 120,000 feet, then it would begin to boil.

 

Besides, he has already performed a successful freefall test from just over 96,000 feet.

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