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When will the videocard display settings be as comprehensive as in windows? I am pretty sure the ATI driver is not as complete, and I know for a fact that soundcards have more options/features in the control panel in Windows. I have 5.1 sound and it barely is operational in Linux let alone customizable.
I would like to see 100% compatablilty in these two areas.
and let's not even talk about gamepads/joysticks/racing wheels for Linux, I would not want to be limited to keyboard only.

Hardware vendors have to see the Linux market start producing before they'll put any real money into driver development. You have to start somewhere, I suppose.
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I wondered how long it would take for the vicious circle to appear. People complain there isn't X on Linux and thus don't use Linux so Producers (hardware/software wise) decide it's not worth it making X on Linux and thus you don't get X on Linux so people complain there isn't X on Linux and don't use Linux....
     
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I'm not gonna get into a debate over this, but the keywords that stand out to me are "commercially viable". Now for those of us who have been running unix flavors since ID ported back in the late 90's will remember this rant he made(remember back then linux/pc modders didn't exactly need the outlandish support he claims). Although it's always about the money, which now that I'm older of course it makes business sense but that's it. Oh and make sure you read the comments outside of the box, there are some really good ones, how he hates users with overclocked machines built by Dr. Frankenstein and just can't handle it anymore. etc...Lastly, see if you can find him posting as other user's it's only a comment or two! If only I had the irc logs from what went on:)


http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9265&cid=573583
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Rookie,

Exactly! I never used X back then, I didn't even run it for 2years after I learned the OS. Which is why I say let people do/run what they want, but I think Linux should be supported. There's no way he'd support it nowadays with main stream distro's booting straight to X.
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*looks at title*
This thread isn't about Valve, it's about the Steam client. And you so graciously pointed out what the article already has.
Also, the real list of already supported games is a bit larger.

Was pointing out that this article was useless.

...Because it is.

Not really, we have 15 confirmed titles, there will likely be more but it's better than nothing.
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This is false. Like I said in an earlier post go and run UNIGINE Heaven benchmark in openGL mode. OpenGL 4.3 can do pretty much everything DX11 can with similar performance to boot. That includes all the advanced stuff. Subsurface scattering, tessellation, realistic real time reflections, soft shadows, volymetrics, ect. it can all be done every bit as well with openGL as it can with DX11.

Dude, don't use UNIGINE as an argument in this OpenGL vs Direct3D discussion, just because the Heaven Benchmark looks/runs the same in OpenGL mode vs DirectX doesn't mean anything, you know better than that mate.

As John Carmack and a couple of other DICE devs have pointed out, Direct3D is the superior API.

And all of this is moot point, as long as DirectX is around, Linux will remain a non option for PC users.

Riiiight, because there totally wasn't an OpenGL update since they said that?
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Amnesia title is incorrect, Also there is already a Linux native version of Amnesia.


But it's awesome to see this. And we already know L4D2 is coming over to Linux too. I hope more mainstream devs start doing this. I mean, Steam is huge, and surely this is going to make some people aware of Linux who otherwise are not. Obviously it's not exactly going to happen overnight, even if it did happen. I wish EA and DICE still used Steam so that we could one day see BF games native to Linux.
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Dude, don't use UNIGINE as an argument in this OpenGL vs Direct3D discussion, just because the Heaven Benchmark looks/runs the same in OpenGL mode vs DirectX doesn't mean anything, you know better than that mate.
As John Carmack and a couple of other DICE devs have pointed out, Direct3D is the superior API.
And all of this is moot point, as long as DirectX is around, Linux will remain a non option for PC users.

With all due respect consider the source. Carmack felt like Linux wasn't worth the time because it didn't help revenue. What you have is 2 studios who don't want to make the financial commitment of supporting a cross-platform game so they use any excuse they can come up with. From a business standpoint I honestly can't blame them but their arguments are BS.
    
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Here is the "DEFINITION" of Carmack & linux (just keep pressing the show more comments at the bottom there's tons) http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9265&cid=573583
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I haven't tried linux in almost a decade, this move by Valve is probably going to make me try it again smile.gif
TF2, HL2 a few others are probably going to run on linux,
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Hardware vendors have to see the Linux market start producing before they'll put any real money into driver development. You have to start somewhere, I suppose.
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I wondered how long it would take for the vicious circle to appear. People complain there isn't X on Linux and thus don't use Linux so Producers (hardware/software wise) decide it's not worth it making X on Linux and thus you don't get X on Linux so people complain there isn't X on Linux and don't use Linux....

That makes no sense. There ***IS*** a demand for linux hardware/games, they just refuse to invest the money in it. How can you use something that doesn't exist to create demand to make it exist? Don't you understand your circular reasoning is flawed.

Hardware/software makers blame eachother. Linux exists and it has openGL/OpenAL ect.=therefore there is a demand for games/drivers. Duh...
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