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That makes no sense. There ***IS*** a demand for linux hardware/games, they just refuse to invest the money in it. How can you use something that doesn't exist to create demand to make it exist? Don't you understand your circular reasoning is flawed.
Hardware/software makers blame eachother. Linux exists and it has openGL/OpenAL ect.=therefore there is a demand for games/drivers. Duh...
Calm down. This isn't circular thinking, its very linear; cause and effect.

Mainstream PC gaming has almost always been strictly been Windows based. As this paradigm starts to shift, and more and more games/users start using Linux, you'll see more and more support for it.

You could argue that Steam coming to Linux will really get the ball rolling.
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Well the perceived market share for Linux is so small that few companies are willing to make drivers/support it. However, what I believe Steam, by making Steam for Linux, will do is show the world just how many people really use Linux and how many people are simply waiting for some games to become available. Top tier games, that is. If Steam is successful at this, I wouldn't be surprised to see Linux suddenly be considered at 15 to 20% of the market within 5 years.

I personally will buy games from them, even if I already own them just to support this. I am not a big fan of Steam but once they announced this, I became one!
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post #83 of 109
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Dude, don't use UNIGINE as an argument in this OpenGL vs Direct3D discussion, just because the Heaven Benchmark looks/runs the same in OpenGL mode vs DirectX doesn't mean anything, you know better than that mate.
As John Carmack and a couple of other DICE devs have pointed out, Direct3D is the superior API.
And all of this is moot point, as long as DirectX is around, Linux will remain a non option for PC users.

Oh so UNIGINE does not count. Then how about the Source engine? Or unreal engine 3? id Tech 5? Aurora Engine (The Witcher)? They are all capable of running in openGL mode with equal fidelity/performance compared to directX. The reason I used the UNIGINE engine as a example is that you can change the render mode very easily and do a comparison.
    
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Sorry, but this isn't enough to switch over.

Until linux gets proper game and hardware support, I'm not budging.
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Sorry, but this isn't enough to switch over.
Until linux gets proper game and hardware support, I'm not budging.
It won't be out of beta until next year and by then it will have several more titles.
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This is false. Like I said in an earlier post go and run UNIGINE Heaven benchmark in openGL mode. OpenGL 4.3 can do pretty much everything DX11 can with similar performance to boot. That includes all the advanced stuff. Subsurface scattering, tessellation, realistic real time reflections, soft shadows, volymetrics, ect. it can all be done every bit as well with openGL as it can with DX11.

actually Open GL 3 may do the same as dx11, i know fora fact open gl had tessellation 3 years before dx11.
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I'm not interested in any of them, but I suppose you have to start somewhere biggrin.gif

I might switch over the Linux when the game library get's around as big as the Mac library is now with AAA games apart from just CoD.
    
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post #88 of 109
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Sorry, but this isn't enough to switch over.
Until linux gets proper game and hardware support, I'm not budging.

Considering there's no public release yet and there's already 15 games, I'm confident there will be enough to get the ball rolling by the time it's readily available. Keep in mind the Ubuntu Software Center just doesn't have a large repertoire of games. (Just an example, since it's one of the most used distros) Between Steam 4 Linux and WINE, I think I may nail the coffin shut on my Windows partition once and for all.
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Calm down. This isn't circular thinking, its very linear; cause and effect.
Mainstream PC gaming has almost always been strictly been Windows based. As this paradigm starts to shift, and more and more games/users start using Linux, you'll see more and more support for it.
You could argue that Steam coming to Linux will really get the ball rolling.

Balmer just described Microsoft as a "devices and services company" if I recall correctly. Or put another way, trying to reinvent itself into being Apple without the cult of personality around the founder which means they are doomed to fail. Valve is doing this because on the horizon is a day when Microsoft can't charge for an OS any longer because it simply wouldn't be competitive with all the linux distros. The computer world is decentralizing, which means Windows is slated to lose it's position of built in dominance and will simply become one of the many. Microsoft only has itself to blame.
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And with that I leave windows forever...
    
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