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post #21 of 92
and my opinion is if you dont know how or what to do and you dont have spare money to change fry cpu and motherboards leave it!
if you have fix a strong pc you no need overckloning to do what;;;;;;;;;;
if you have money to buy a ferrari you will do experiments to go faster that from the factory leave the tires on the ground;;;;;!!!
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and my opinion is if you dont know how or what to do and you dont have spare money to change fry cpu and motherboards leave it!
if you have fix a strong pc you no need overckloning to do what;;;;;;;;;;
if you have money to buy a ferrari you will do experiments to go faster that from the factory leave the tires on the ground;;;;;!!!

Lolwut? biggrin.gif

Dude ever get a look at the name of this website? rolleyes.gif

The OP is not going to "fry anything" if things are went about the correct way. And as far as "not knowing" anything goes, we were all beginners once (including myself).
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dude i m afraid you STUCK easilly for nothing!
i m 30 years old and i like and love pc as you!
but i think i said my LOGIC opinion to someone who doesn't know something and dont push him-her to do wrong moves
i think i cover you
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and no one in planet earth knows pc's 100%!!!
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dude i m afraid you STUCK easilly for nothing!
i m 30 years old and i like and love pc as you!
but i think i said my LOGIC opinion to someone who doesn't know something and dont push him-her to do wrong moves
i think i cover you

1. I'm not "pushing" anyone to do something wrong. You've been plain exaggerating about things like parts 'exploding' and CPUs 'frying' and longetivity 'drastically' decreasing if voltage is increased (unless you push 1.6v+ on a crap board with a crap cooler).

2. Its the OPs decision whether or not overclocking is a good idea. 4GHz can easily be had on a 955 @ 1.42-1.48v without 'frying' the CPU and as long as temps are below 62c.
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post #26 of 92
i agree with you
i said my opinion from my experience
and my opinion is to do a good overckloking you will need first knowledge,second a good cpu cooler to avoid overheatings and to increase volts to cpu you will shorten the cpu life!
i believe i say LOGIC THINGS! Ε ΛΕ Ο Σ ΠΙΑ!
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Hey Kittencake, good to see you got a Phenom II in the board after all. smile.gif Did you have any luck attempting to OC after reading that guide link that Fuell posted? OCing Phenoms isn't too bad. Your board(I'm sure) has better VRM's than mine and the most common OC for these Black edition chips is bumping the multiplier and adding a bit of voltage as you go. It is really just a trial and error process that will probably come with a few blue screens along the way. Use prime95 and Intel Burn Test to check for stability as you do not want to go under the assumption that your computer running on an OC is stable. On that note, how are your CPU temps? What are your idle/load temps like? Do you have a program to monitor it? Phenom II max thermal temps should not go above 62C so keep that in mind when you start OCing and stress testing.

@kostas, as far your advice goes it is honestly rather horrible. I'm still confused as to why you even suggested she run the WEI when it has no bearing on OC the system at all. Next, increased voltages does not necessarily mean shortened life. This is usually the result from higher temps. She has an aftermarket cooler(which you obviously haven't noticed since you continue to suggest she not try an OC unless she has one) so that should not be a problem.

The PC crashing and not booting right back up does not mean the BIOS battery needs to be reset either. I've only had this be the case for me a rare few times that usually had something to do with an FSB OC on the RAM and like the other guy said, software OC are not as effective as the BIOS.

She's not going to fry her PC from being ignorant. We all had to start somewhere. There is no class for this. As an enthusiast you learn as you go. Unless she jacked the voltage of the CPU over 1.6(if her board even let her) and ran stress tests then I would worry of a fried CPU or motherboard, but that's not going to happen because she is asking questions and being cautious.
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Yes, as along as you keep the volts in a normal range, monitor your temps, and don't try for max OC first thing, you'll likely not hit many, if any, issues at all. And for killing components. There are a bunch of threads of people trying their hardest to kill CPU's. It's actually quite hard unless you pump massive volts through it, as it simply won't boot. People run without HSF at all, on high end chips, and all it will do is overheat and shutdown, thus protecting your CPU and other components.

OC'ing will seem like a daunting task the first time or two, as you'll be worried about everything and hearing FUD in the back of your mind that makes you nervous. But as long as you read the guides, learn the terms, and take your time (plus ask questions, we're here to help) it will be a painless process.

And with Phenom II's, again, its very beneficial to OC the NB as well to help with stability and get to a slightly higher OC possibly.

I have that board as well, it sure is a decent board for the price. It only has 4+2 phase VRM but they are solid quality VRM's and sinked. You won't want to be pushing an FX octo to 4.8+, but a Phenom II to 4ghz will be fine, as long as you monitor temps.

I also suggest you read this and this as well. The second being a list of articles that might be of help.
Edited by Fuell - 10/9/12 at 10:54am
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I also suggest you read this and this as well. The second being a list of articles that might be of help.
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has anyone posted this? http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_20
..best k10 guide on the web.

Beat you to it, my first "This". But yes, its an amazingly good guide, make sure to check it out.

Kitten, what stepping 955 you got btw? If its very early revision your OCing potential might be a bit lower.
Edited by Fuell - 10/9/12 at 11:18am
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