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Old News. This was supposed to happen back in July.
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What about people using proxy services? How does that affect this?
    
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What about people using proxy services?
    
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Originally Posted by philhalo66 View Post

is it worth going to prison for? i don't think so

Yes it is because both ways you end up with a place to sleep and food in your belly.
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Originally Posted by legoman786 View Post

What about people using proxy services?

You can still be identified through a Proxy or VPN it just takes a bit longer.

I'd actually like an "official" response from he whom works at an ISP as well...How will logging into a VPN/Proxy be handled post this bill?
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Originally Posted by illipinoG View Post

First time posting a news article, but this caught my eye. I did a quick search and there are some similar threads, but this article seems to be a new continuation of the previous ones? If I'm mistaken, mods, please remove this.
source

This has been going on much longer and at a more personal level. What I mean is many ISP's have operated this way on their own for a long time, if my company gets enough complaints on one customer, we cut them off completely.
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Every single time that I've mentioned this was happening or even eluded to it, I've been told "IP's aren't people".
Well, yes, yes they are...Ultimately, your use of the IP is yours or someone else's and this bill ensures they'll be faulted for it...
I still keep in touch with a few friends in France and this is very real.
There's no such thing as anonymity on the internet anymore...So better watch what you download.

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The ruling in it's context states that you cannot actually identify an individual by an IP if a crime was committed which, is moderately true.
I'm not about to link threads together but, ISP's now have policies where if a person of authority has real evidence, 9/10 that ISP gives up the end user...
This is 2012, if you're pirating at a Starbucks, then by this bill, the Starbucks gets tagged...Thus, an IP is actually ultimately responsible for your actions until they prove otherwise, this is what I meant in my first post.
You can post all day about how your IP isn't an identifier yet, your ISP actually disagrees and will give you up in a heartbeat.
This is just the next step in that progression and as I've said many many many times, there is no such thing as anonymity on the internet anymore.

Masked, I think you and I have made commentary on this matter in several posts before. biggrin.gif

What Masked is saying is absolutely correct, most ISP's will simply provide the needed information to Law Enforcement, no warrant/subpoena required. My business has this clearly outlined in the Usage Agreement, if you break the law and they want your information, we will hand it over without question.

It costs us time and money to deal with letters from Attorneys and Copyright holders filing complaints about people stealing. As a business I am going to lessen the financial impact as much as possible when it comes to dealing with people stealing. One of the easiest ways of doing this is to simply give the thieves information to the authorities upon their request, and absolve myself of liabilities.

My business is tiny compared to AT&T, Verizon, and Charter. If I get letters from Copyright holders on a regular basis, I can't imagine how often the "big guys" get letters, educated guess would tell me they have entire teams dedicated to the problem.

Personally, 4 strikes is WAAAY too soft, we typically run a 2 strike policy, or one MAJOR.
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Wow that is a little load off my mind. The fact that its so easy to steal wifi should be grounds for dismissal IMO. I mean sure if I DLed it its on me but if some jack off steals my internet, unless I want to plug my laptop in and turn my wifi off, there is nothing I can do.
And, just because some jack off is going to say, "Why don't you encrypt it, idiot!" Well wifi encryption takes all of 5 min to break. I've seen it done, it was impressive.

Not all wireless encryption methods are vulnerable to hacks. You probably saw a demo on how to crack WEP, or some similar outdated encryption model.

http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Computer_Science/2007/WEP_WPA_wireless_security.asp

Also, what do ISP's plan to do with pirates that encrypt their torrents/illegal media?? All the ISP can see on their end is large amounts of encrypted data being passed to and from a user IP. I am aware that they can reduce the bandwidth to that location, but they can't enforce any copyright penalties if they can't tell what the data actually is.
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the solution is simple DO NOT PIRATE!

easy to say, if you're not a man
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also in related news. http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268789/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=3DbXHp7l
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The Supreme Court is leaving in place a federal law that gives telecommunications companies legal immunity for helping the government with its email and telephone eavesdropping program.
all is lost.
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