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Not all wireless encryption methods are vulnerable to hacks. You probably saw a demo on how to crack WEP, or some similar outdated encryption model.
http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Computer_Science/2007/WEP_WPA_wireless_security.asp
Also, what do ISP's plan to do with pirates that encrypt their torrents/illegal media?? All the ISP can see on their end is large amounts of encrypted data being passed to and from a user IP. I am aware that they can reduce the bandwidth to that location, but they can't enforce any copyright penalties if they can't tell what the data actually is.

This. Honestly? What could the ISP do about? They have no proof on what is actually being transferred. They would just detect a large amount of P2P traffic.
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This. Honestly? What could the ISP do about? They have no proof on what is actually being transferred. They would just detect a large amount of P2P traffic.

We shut them off....

Large amounts of P2P traffic easily break "fair usage" policies, and we can terminate their connections. Additionally, you two are aren't understanding a few things....

1) You can encrypt the data, but we can still see where it is going, and then through various tools determine who is at the other end.

2) Even encrypted data isn't 100% safe in today's world, and it is possible to view that data - But that is a conversation for another time.

3) You two act like it is your legal RIGHT to use an ISP. Nope! It is a privilege and you are subject to our usage rules.
    
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Not all wireless encryption methods are vulnerable to hacks. You probably saw a demo on how to crack WEP, or some similar outdated encryption model.

Well it wasn't a demo we were setting up wireless networks in class at the university I went to and a Linux guy there bet the teacher he could crack the encryption in under 5 min, and he did. But it was old linksys hardware, well new then though, and I can't remember but would bet it was WEP.
post #24 of 411
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This is 2012, if you're pirating at a Starbucks, then by this bill, the Starbucks gets tagged...Thus, an IP is actually ultimately responsible for your actions until they prove otherwise, this is what I meant in my first post.
You can post all day about how your IP isn't an identifier yet, your ISP actually disagrees and will give you up in a heartbeat.
This is just the next step in that progression and as I've said many many many times, there is no such thing as anonymity on the internet anymore.

Well i was going to post it was recently ruled that people providing open wifi can't be held responsible but upon further investigation that was Finland not the US. redface.gif
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Well i was going to post it was recently ruled that people providing open wifi can't be held responsible but upon further investigation that was Finland not the US. redface.gif

In the US you are ultimately responsible for your internet connection, open or otherwise. By leaving your connection open, for any reason, you take full responsibility for what happens on it, and can face legal action. However, it is rare to see the law enforced in this manner, at least I don't know of many cases where a company was nailed for their free wifi service.
    
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I don't know but terminating a paying customers service sounds like bad business practice to me. Have electric power companies terminated service for people that grow weed in their basement?
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We shut them off....
Large amounts of P2P traffic easily break "fair usage" policies, and we can terminate their connections. Additionally, you two are aren't understanding a few things....
1) You can encrypt the data, but we can still see where it is going, and then through various tools determine who is at the other end.
2) Even encrypted data isn't 100% safe in today's world, and it is possible to view that data - But that is a conversation for another time.
3) You two act like it is your legal RIGHT to use an ISP. Nope! It is a privilege and you are subject to our usage rules.

IIRC, the UN recently declared internet access a human right.
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Under the six-strikes plan, internet subscribers may challenge their dings for a $35 filing fee paid to an arbitration service. They also get a free pass, one time, if they claim the infringement was based on having an open, unencrypted Wi-Fi network.

Everyone missed the best part.
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so basically... with these laws.. a pirate can sit outside my house, crack my wpa2/psk pirate some software, and i get charged for it? as the other person was saying... an IP is not a person... it is a location... and address if you will just like the street address on your house..... when was the last time you seen someones house show up in court? or better yet, with these laws, its only a matter of time before someone can break into your home... rob you blind and you go to jail because the location of the crime is all that matters.... its basically the same thing right? when is the riaa, mpaa gonna realize that none of this will ever stop piracy..... how bout they spend their money on something useful, like actually putting out quality merchandise thats actually worth paying for? and put a fair price on it so that it becomes available to an even larger market? piracy will still be there, but when a majority of your customers are not breaking the bank and recieving a quality product.... in the end you as a company will make even more money... and since you arent wasting so much tryin to keep those that cant afford your garbage products from gettin them by other means... in the long run you are saving money and you will have more than enough to keep the investors happy...... just sayin
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I dont get how people who just want software and media for free are considered 'pirates' and should face jail time but yet the companies that make all kinds of money off the masses with artificial price ceilings and floors are not, its really quite the hypocrisy.

sometimes in life you have to do what you ought to do, not what you want.
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