Originally Posted by Masked
Ubisoft, IGN and many others posted numbers that proved their product was being pirated on a massive scale...How is that so hard to comprehend?
Their net losses actually support this claim and no, they'd still exist regardless of if this profit margin existed or not.
The only reason pirated copies existed was because of the DRM...Now that the DRM no longer is present, their sales went up.
Please refer to fact rather than this melancholy of absurdity.
I don't care if you're stance is against "corporate america" or not, be logical.
I've also witnessed a torrent site exist off a line that was spliced into but, I guess he wasn't stealing and pirating because "corporate america" are baddies...Even though he was soaking up 40% of the signal...That's okay though!
And their figures were made by their research... how convenient that they support their own claim. Also considering that it took into account, like I said, cracks for games (which does not constitute a lost sale)... skewed results.
I'm not, and have never said I was, against 'corporate America'. In fact, I work for a major bank, and not in the retail side... I AM against corrupt 'xxx'.. be it America, Mexico, Canada, or any other nation's businesses or politicians. I am not against corporate America.
Like Langer just stated as well, there doesn't seem to be any issue with DVR technology, which functions quite the same as what you do by obtaining 'pirated' content via a P2P.
I also find it hard to believe that Ubisoft wouldn't be suffering quite a bit more if they were really suffering from only 5% sales during the time periods they claimed were an issue. Their losses don't specifically correlate to those being pirated. It is not an issue of causation there. Piracy did not CAUSE their net losses. Their net losses were caused by horrible DRM and lack of interest in their products. Piracy did contribute to these issues though, that is a given.
Speaking in an absolute isn't wise word choice when you say i'm not being logical and rooted in fact. Ex.: "The only reason pirated copies existed was because of the DRM..." Even before ALL DRM, piracy existed for those who didn't have access to, or didn't want to pay for the game. Pirated copies existed because some people just enjoy the challenge of cracking a game, and some wanted to 'stick it to the man'...
Ubisoft is just fine, and piracy isn't going to sink them any more than it is going to sink any of the recording studios. These entities have proven time and again they are all perfectly capable of failing on their own.
For Postals comment: "..and it wasn't purchased legally or given away by the owner for free, it is stealing. Period. It can't be argued." I'll argue that... isn't P2P doing exactly that? Giving away something that was at one time originally purchased? Anymore, no one is the 'owner' of anything... so that is the only loophole, but that is legaleeze, and really quite anti-consumer in the end.