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the solution is simple DO NOT PIRATE!

So, it's perfectly okay that the MPAA and RIAA can operate with complete impunity, and essentially claim anyone is a pirating, by using what amounts to nothing more that circumstantial evidence, if any evidence at all. Moreover, they can make astronomical demands (million of dollars) in a court of law, against any individual with no real basis behind their demands.

It's not about piracy, it's about a persons' rights.
 
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i wonder how much obama got paid for this.

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i wonder how much obama got paid for this.

I wonder how low your IQ is.
 
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the other poster was trying to say adult films...

no i just meant accepting something is wrong just because "the man" (corporations and corporate owned government) say it is wrong is not manly. I don't personally pirate, but i don't condone the current system and just say, "don't question the bully and you won't get hit."

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I wonder how low your IQ is.

considering how our campaign finance system works in the us (no regulation whatsoever, with corporations being able to literally buy public opinion, this is a legit question. though republicans would do the same or worse
Edited by perfectblade - 10/9/12 at 2:01pm
post #45 of 411
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

We shut them off....

3) You two act like it is your legal RIGHT to use an ISP. Nope! It is a privilege and you are subject to our usage rules.

Gonna take (small) issue with this sentiment. Using an ISP is a privilege until you start paying for such usage - at that point it is a contractual right. If someone is speeding in a car and causes an accident, it's not the place of the city council to decide whether that person can use the road; the law and the judiciary make that decision.

Question: if you cut off a customer who is under a contact, do you bill them for the remainder of the contract even though the termination was on your part, not theirs?

Personally, I think the best way is to simply let the law handle it. If the person ends up in prison, they won't be using the Internet anyway (at least not from home).

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Originally Posted by rusky1 View Post

And like always, this law will only hurt the everyday user, not the guys that do the REAL pirating. Knowledge prevails in everything and right now, even the lightly educated, person will be able to get around this.
Good job RIAA, another useless law that creates more work for ISP's and allows them to tighten down our internet usage even more, even if it's 100% legal.

This, since the every day user is far less knowledgeable and will do much less to cover their tracks. Also, the copyright issue is simply being used an introducer - this law will be expanded, you watch.
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i wonder how much obama got paid for this.

Plenty. Election campaigns cost millions, and he certainly didn't pay for his own. So the President is (quite literally) bought and paid for. biggrin.gif
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the solution is simple DO NOT PIRATE!

So every single rig, even rigs with similar specs have different optimizations for games. So with most games not having demos these days, how are people supposed to justify spending $60 on a game not knowing if it will run like **** or not.

Also out of my very broad range of music genres I enjoy, I would say at least 75% of them seem to be alright with people pirating music their music (at the very least). It's because they know what music really stands for and hope you do too. If you understand and like it then you will buy their music. You will at-least be likely go to one or more of their shows which usually ends up being more $ in their pocked than buying a album.

It is a give and take process and you have to participate in both. Sadly the people that just take are the ones making a bad name for all of us.
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Wow that is a little load off my mind. The fact that its so easy to steal wifi should be grounds for dismissal IMO. I mean sure if I DLed it its on me but if some jack off steals my internet, unless I want to plug my laptop in and turn my wifi off, there is nothing I can do.
And, just because some jack off is going to say, "Why don't you encrypt it, idiot!" Well wifi encryption takes all of 5 min to break. I've seen it done, it was impressive.

Their mac address will more than likely be somewhere in your router, which will more than likely prove your innocence.
Edited by Outlawed - 10/9/12 at 2:18pm
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What, on WEP with a four digit passcode?
Well, if you're on WEP it doesn't matter what your password is even. tongue.gif

But WPA2 with a strong password is about as secure as secure gets. If your attacker has a supercomputer cluster dedicated to breaking into your wifi you have bigger problems.
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wep crack 30 seconds. vulnerability via back door (well actually its like putting the hinges on the outside with wep)

WPA2 256bit AES with a decent key length ...... Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch longer, dependent on hardware were talking years here (and we all rotate our keys every six months right? .. ohh and have turned off WPS and UPNP on our routers)

all i think will happen is more traffic will get encrypted and perhaps even tunnels within tunnels to distribution point servers who then supply magnetic links. most likely there will be lots of opensource client software with ip databases that build and create connections peer to peer full encryption, multi tunneled. perhaps within that software we will see custom mini browsers and bulletin board style communities?

the internet may have become ultra commercial, shinny and almost pay per view but true obsessives, geeks, coders and the underworld will create a new net using existing network links
Edited by Pip Boy - 10/9/12 at 2:29pm
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Every single time that I've mentioned this was happening or even eluded to it, I've been told "IP's aren't people".
Well, yes, yes they are...Ultimately, your use of the IP is yours or someone else's and this bill ensures they'll be faulted for it...
I still keep in touch with a few friends in France and this is very real.
There's no such thing as anonymity on the internet anymore...So better watch what you download.

Simply put privacy is dead, which is very true.
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all i think will happen is more traffic will get encrypted and perhaps even tunnels within tunnels to distribution point servers who then supply magnetic links. most likely there will be lots of opensource client software with ip databases that build and create connections peer to peer full encryption, multi tunneled. perhaps within that software we will see custom mini browsers and bulletin board style communities?
the internet may have become ultra commercial, shinny and almost pay per view but true obsessives, geeks, coders and the underworld will create a new net using existing network links

Gotta agree with this. Any attempt (serious or otherwise) to control the Internet will ultimately fail. There are too many hackers (real ones, not script kiddies or social engineers) out there that know their way around.

Knowing this makes me happy. smile.gif
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