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Your Note 2 is a smartphone right? About an 8Whr battery? Well the iPad 2 has a 25Whr and the 3 a 42.5Whr. HDMI is good... because you can output your display to any HDTV w/ an HDMI port (and displays too I think).

I know that, if you had read my entire comment you would have realized that I was talking about how there is no need for an HDMI cable because I am using a smart tv. More TV's should use the smart system that Samsung does as it is amazing. No need to bother with cables at all, rendering that entire part of the debate useless. I couldn't justify a single device that could only be used by an iPhone/iPad/iPod as you can get the same or better quality via other means. All Apple accessories and the lightning connector are is simply a form of control by Apple over their product. With the exception of the charging the iPad 2 and 3 as I am just not going to dig up all the details on it.

It is nice that Apple updated their old and outdated connector and that this company reverse engineered it to make cool LED cables. Just they had other options.
I did read your entire comment and I knew what you were talking about. Any wireless solution has lag, and delay, which is fine for your average application, but not for gaming. And not every HDTV might have that capability, whereas via HDMI the smartphone or tablet can plug into any HDTV or display with the port.

They didn't really have other options. As has been posted here, Micro-USB simply doesn't offer any of the same things. This connector will probably be here for another five or more years, and it's far better than Micro-USB.
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samsung-vs-apple-adaptors.png
Tot doing too bad when compared to other companies thumb.gif

Would you compare prices also?
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The cheap micro usb cable on monoprice is charge only, it won't sync the phone when plugged via usb to computer/laptop.

Are you sure? Because that's the cable I used to root my phone. And transfer ringtones, pictures, misc files.
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Are you sure? Because that's the cable I used to root my phone. And transfer ringtones, pictures, misc files.

I bought two different mini-USB cables...one type I bought from Newegg (I believe it actually had the Rosewill brand on it and were like $2 with free shipping) and those cables work fine. I realized I needed a third cable for at work and I just got one from Walmart for about $10...I never paid attention to the brand. It will only charge my phone. kind of annoying, but charging was all I needed. I just snyc my calendarand move files via Bluetooth

So I know not all cables are created equally
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Useless lighting is useless... More apple flash, still no substance.
 
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didnt intel come up with this tech first i remember reading it somewhere ages ago???
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For all those stating why USB can't be used etc...
A electrical engineering analysis of the Lightning connector:
First post
http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/13/boom-2/
Follow up post
http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/18/boom-a-follow-up/
Post about the pins
http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/23/boom-pins/
Analysis of the connector in the iPhone 5
http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/21/boom-teardown/

Still don't see any significant tangible advantages over micro-USB... Only that this is "fool proof" which says more about Apple's views of their fanbase.

The advantages of this plug are so minuscule as to not warrant breaking industry standards, especially considering that the other end of this Lightening Cable is USB(10x slower than USB 3.0)
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cant you daisy chain this or am i thinking of something different from inetl?
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post #79 of 172
do most new smartphones support usb 3.0 or 2.0?
post #80 of 172
Wow anyone defending USB's capabilities outside of speed transfer is BIAS as hell.

USB sucks. Its a non-reversible and easy to break. The connections are not magnetic and pull your phone/accessory down to the floor if you hit the wire. They are cheap and are just good enough to get the job done. No thanks. USB technology is ancient history. Move on already.
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