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I'm sure it's all fine and dandy because of the Patriot Act.

You or anyone else would be hard pressed trying to defend this under the patriot act in national court against violation of the privacy act.
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@damric
You do realize that military service is voluntary right? While there are plenty of men and women that join the military for the money, job security, and all the free benefits; there are still many young men and women that join because of patriotic duty to their country. I willing gave up my liberty and freedom that I enjoyed so that hundreds more citizens didn't have to. It really is that simple.
To the thread in general: My quote is apt, it is a mindset.

Ever heard of the draft?

BTW, I'm a vet too
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You or anyone else would be hard pressed trying to defend this under the patriot act in national court against violation of the privacy act.

Teenagers = terrorists.
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I have heard of the draft and it has been used several times in US history. I am perfectly fine with it too. As a citizen, you have an obligation to defend your country. Most of the time an all volunteer military is enough, sometimes not. Hence, drafting.
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Teenagers = terrorists.

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When I was in high school, the teacher would have us raise our hand and he/she would look in our direction to make sure it's really us and we're there in class when attendance was being taken. If that's too much to ask, we've really hit a new low.

It's not to much to ask, it's in the teachers/schools favor to falsify the records saying all student were there.
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I have heard of the draft and it has been used several times in US history. I am perfectly fine with it too. As a citizen, you have an obligation to defend your country. Most of the time an all volunteer military is enough, sometimes not. Hence, drafting.

No.
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I have heard of the draft and it has been used several times in US history. I am perfectly fine with it too. As a citizen, you have an obligation to defend your country. Most of the time an all volunteer military is enough, sometimes not. Hence, drafting.

Just remember to wear your RFID smile.gif
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You are completely wrong on just about everything.
Privacy...a public school doesn't need a warrant to search a students backpack, clothing, locker...a student on school property has almost no expectation to privacy. New Jersey v. T.L.O. ruled that students have reduced right to privacy in a public school. The public school can legally track a students every move on the school property and be completely legal.
Private/Public schools ability to monitor students...see above.
Funding...you obviously have not even the slightest clue how school budgets work. Perhaps you should research that a bit more thoroughly and then get back to me. The attendance this year affects NEXT years budget
RF monitoring...your credit card has an RFID chip in it..are you monitored all over town? What about the RFID work badge...does your employer monitor your every move away from work? Please name one instance where this has been proven dangerous for the students...got news for you, you can't, it hasn't been tried before.
Whether or not it is a good or bad idea remains to be proven.

Ok...first off there should be a VERY clear definition of privacy in terms of searching, and tracking. I think you need to read a bit more in that article because they are trying to track children outside of school to see where the children are...........l. Which actually breaks on of your criteria "on school property". Plus I would take a closer look at that New Jersey vs T.L.O. ruling "According to school officials, they do require a "reasonable suspicion" to perform a search." And further more, the drugs that were found on the girl were in plain sight which is not a violation of 4th amendment. I think this situation could be faught at the supreme court level and that particular case would not even be applicable Since the school has no reasonable suspicion, then you can not override the 4th amendment, OR the privacy act. Another nail in the coffin to your argument is that schools have security cameras in the school. So if you really want to track students, why not use those???? Since they can already tack the movement of students in the school, and since they specifically say they want to track student off school grounds. IT IS ILLEGAL!!!!! Either illegal, or just plain stupid...either one.

And you are right that I have no clue how funding works. That's why I was pissed to find out how it works. I wasn't saying the huffington post got it wrong, I was saying that I could not believe how asinine the school budget was. wink.gif
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Ever heard of the draft?
BTW, I'm a vet too
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Teenagers = terrorists.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Sometimes I completely agree.

The patriot act will soon be overturned. Someone is going to abuse the crap out of that law (other than the president) and it will be ruled unconstitutional.
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Ok...first off there should be a VERY clear definition of privacy in terms of searching, and tracking. I think you need to read a bit more in that article because they are trying to track children outside of school to see where the children are...........l. Which actually breaks on of your criteria "on school property". Plus I would take a closer look at that New Jersey vs T.L.O. ruling "According to school officials, they do require a "reasonable suspicion" to perform a search." And further more, the drugs that were found on the girl were in plain sight which is not a violation of 4th amendment. I think this situation could be faught at the supreme court level and that particular case would not even be applicable Since the school has no reasonable suspicion, then you can not override the 4th amendment, OR the privacy act. Another nail in the coffin to your argument is that schools have security cameras in the school. So if you really want to track students, why not use those???? Since they can already tack the movement of students in the school, and since they specifically say they want to track student off school grounds. IT IS ILLEGAL!!!!! Either illegal, or just plain stupid...either one.
And you are right that I have no clue how funding works. That's why I was pissed to find out how it works. I wasn't saying the huffington post got it wrong, I was saying that I could not believe how asinine the school budget was. wink.gif

Very well thought out post. This is a very, VERY slippery slope we are headed down. this is different than say a regular state issued ID card. this is a tracking chip and should be no means be used(let alone forced) on kids by a school system. Texas is a HOORIBLE place for parental rights. Texas likes to think they are the parent and can decide what is best for your kids.

On a side note, i would not do this to my kids and if the school system tried to force it on them i would simply pull them out of school. Public schools are going overboard.
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Very well thought out post. This is a very, VERY slippery slope we are headed down. this is different than say a regular state issued ID card. this is a tracking chip and should be no means be used(let alone forced) on kids by a school system. Texas is a HOORIBLE place for parental rights. Texas likes to think they are the parent and can decide what is best for your kids.
On a side note, i would not do this to my kids and if the school system tried to force it on them i would simply pull them out of school. Public schools are going overboard.

I agree and you know, I think I have the perfect thing to sum up the argument against this and why we should never attempt trying to control ANYONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U
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