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Part of being a kid is learning from mistakes. They should worry more on how to prevent kids shooting schools up.

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Dubya can stick his W. er. the sun don't shine.
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Makes perfect sense. They have to make sure the kids aren't getting into trouble or endangering themselves/others.
For if they are, the blame falls directly at the school's doorstep. This has to be done for their own good.
When it comes to the safety of children, there's no such thing as being too careful.

I see what you did there...

Sarcasm... biggrin.gif You're funny.

 

Sadly, even if it was meant in a sarcastic manner what he states is true of our current environment. If a kid does get in trouble or endangers themselves or others they blame always falls directly on the schools doorstep.

    
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It already has been. This is a flagrant obfuscation of human rights. Let's number our people, treat them like cattle. It's for their own good, don't you know?
This is disgusting, and whoever proposed this plan and implemented it should be fired.
Flagrant is the perfect word for this. I guess we no longer have MIRANDA rights anymore eh? Nor de we have any right that stem from ourselves and not government now a days. Next they're going to make you get a chip embedded into you when you start school that can zap you when you skip school or something. I would tell my kid to throw that away and remind the school board that I, as the tax payer, Control what they do. Their power is fake. "they" in question are just people who band together with collective though on how to screw us over more and more. i love society.
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Flagrant is the perfect word for this. I guess we no longer have MIRANDA rights anymore eh? Nor de we have any right that stem from ourselves and not government now a days. Next they're going to make you get a chip embedded into you when you start school that can zap you when you skip school or something. I would tell my kid to throw that away and remind the school board that I, as the tax payer, Control what they do. Their power is fake. "they" in question are just people who band together with collective though on how to screw us over more and more. i love society.

Now sure why you bring the Miranda Rights into this... but too many people simply don't understand them. Here's a quote directly from the ruling that put them into effect:

"...The person in custody must, prior to interrogation, be clearly informed that he or she has the right to remain silent, and that anything the person says will be used against that person in court; the person must be clearly informed that he or she has the right to consult with an attorney and to have that attorney present during questioning, and that, if he or she is indigent, an attorney will be provided at no cost to represent her or him." - Miranda v Arizona 1966

Not much has really changed regarding the reading, but in 2010 certain other guidelines were put into place that clarified a few things. Just checked wikipedia and this is backed up as well. The Miranda Warning is not hard coded in language or procedure either and differs between areas slightly. Exceptions to the warning are allowed in exigent circumstances as well.

It is exceedingly hard to protect yourself from the government though, that is a given. Just try even arguing your way out of a traffic ticket where you weren't actually speeding, etc. How about getting information on wha tthe government actually knows of has cataloged about you. At a state and local level, the citizens are somewhat fairly represented, however moving up to Federal level, good luck with anything. The abuses by the TSA highlight this perfectly.

Thankfully, this instance is a local issue and not a state or federal issue. So, if you're local go voice yourself in person and really do something about it. If it ever comes up localy for anyone here opposed to it, voice yourself. The government at all levels only has as much power as we've let it have. School Boards are effectively part of the government when we have public school children... so, stand up.
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reminds me of a work badge. You need it to enter the building and to clock in.
In the schools case it helps with many things; truancy, kidnappings etc.

Also for those that dont know John Jay High School here is San Antonio is school that this could benefit.
lets just say the area..oh screw it, Its a bad school in a bad area and so on.

If people are already doing what they are supposed to and keeping out of trouble than this shouldn't be an issue, a big deal is being made because its easier to keep tabs on the bad apples.

Also understand not everyone in the school is a trouble maker.
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Back when i was in high school 11 years ago, we had a photo ID that we wore around our neck that had our grade on it that was color code and our photo. Did it bother me nope, because i know I suppose to be in that high school. They did it to stop people who didnt go to that school from coming in there. It worked too, as the school guards kicked them out if they didn't have one. But if you didn't had yours on you would get in trouble if you didn't make a effort to get it replace if it was lost. I made sure to get mine replaced that one time i lost it.

Sure it isn't the same thing since it doesn't have a ID chip on it. But if it did, my eduction was important and i wasn't gonna throw a fit over it when I need that eduction. I surely wasnt about to get transfer to another school that wasn't close to me.
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They only got this imposed because tracking allows schools to keep count of attendance, which gives the school more funding....
I think i'd just tape my id to the bottom of my desk and walk around with a fake one
Why aren't we blaming the parents for kids behaving badly or being truant?

all i can say is im happy to be in my generation
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This has to be the most retarded thing I've read in many years. If I had a kid come home with one of these things it would get snapped into many tiny bits, should the school come knockin I would swiftly point out my kid is not a inanimate object, nor is he/she a pet or cattle. Might as well just come out and say they want to put criminal ankle bracelets on the students.

Absolutely insane and ludicrous idea.
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"RFID is used to track factory inventory and monitor farm animals," said Dr. Katherine Albrecht, director of CASPIAN. "Schools, of all places, should be teaching children how to participate in a free democratic society, not conditioning them to be tracked like cattle."
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