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Honestly, I enjoy CoD, it's not the best, no, but these people saying.. LOL SAME GRAFFIZK YO. Not a chance, I played a round of CoD 4 yesterday and then a round of Black ops, yes, there is a noticeable improvement.
    
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Originally Posted by Raven.7 View Post

This has nothing to do with control methods nor graphical quality. Look at BF3, it is the perfect example of why & how consoles are ruining PC gaming:
-Dumbed-down gameplay.
-Stripped features.
-Insane amount of time in-between patches
Screw consoles, and screw developers like DICE who are low enough to turn on their own fanbase to make more money.

Gotta agree with this. COD has literally murdered innovation in the FPS genre. After CoD4, everyone said "wow, we want COD money, let's make our version of COD". Crysis 2 is the best example: Crysis 1 had the insane, massive map, tactical "Power struggle" mode, with vehicles, and a money system, 32-player cap (although I saw this hacked to 128p once), and so on. Then Crysis 2 comes out on console, and all we get are tiny maps and variations of TDM - regardless of the fact that PS was the most popular mode in C1.

A friend of mine (who rarely plays ANY video games) put it best: "Why are they trying to get CoD money? Only CoD can get CoD money".

And he's right. People who like CoD are going to see the CoD clones, and think "why bother" - they are imitators of something they already have. A while back we had a great setup. CoD gave us more soldier based combat, while BF2 gave us more full-scale battles.

Now look at what we have now rolleyes.gif
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Gotta laugh out of people complaining that it's the Quake 3 engine. Are you people aware, even in the slightest sense, that most - if not all - code has probably been changed at this point in it's life? Developers only use engines as a base point, and build off of them. Calling the COD engine the Quake 3 engine is ignorant. I hate Activision and COD as much as the next guy, but seriously?

Does that mean Source is actually just a slightly spruced up Quake 1?
Does that mean that Rage is just a fancier version of Wolfenstein?

It does look like crap, sure, but it's miles ahead of Tech3.

Yea I already tried explaining this to them. You could be a game developer that has written game engines and they still wouldn't listen to you, trust me. wink.gif
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We need new consoles soon. That way the games get better tech and the PC ports of these games can be better presented to PC gamers.

Even with a new console the hardware they will use is still going to be 10 years to old so they Dev only has to make a game that is "good enough" and that is the sad reality , That is why I keep saying the hardware manufactures should get on the publishers to make better games or at least put some effort into making better looking games ,
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We need new consoles soon. That way the games get better tech and the PC ports of these games can be better presented to PC gamers.

Even with a new console the hardware they will use is still going to be 10 years to old so they Dev only has to make a game that is "good enough" and that is the sad reality , That is why I keep saying the hardware manufactures should get on the publishers to make better games or at least put some effort into making better looking games ,

Nope. Please refrain from stating things as if they were fact when you have no idea what you're talking about. Even current-gen consoles aren't using hardware that is 10 years old...
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Nope. Please refrain from stating things as if they were fact when you have no idea what you're talking about. Even current-gen consoles aren't using hardware that is 10 years old...

I was exaggerating but the hardware compared to a PC is sub par . but the fact is most games are geared toward the console so my point is the publisher don't have put alot of effort into a game .

EDIT: I said publisher because I am sure the DEV would love make a great game
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Nope. Please refrain from stating things as if they were fact when you have no idea what you're talking about. Even current-gen consoles aren't using hardware that is 10 years old...

I was exaggerating but the hardware compared to a PC is sub par . but the fact is most games are geared toward the console so my point is the publisher don't have put alot of effort into a game .

EDIT: I said publisher because I am sure the DEV would love make a great game

When the next-gen comes out it's likely that the hardware combined with the efficiency of developing without drivers will put those games at the same level as a high-end single GPU PC. But yes, over time PCs increase the performance gap between themselves and a set of hardware that is fixed and aging. It's not all bad though, it saves consumers a lot of money on hardware upgrades (or lack of them).
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Gotta agree with this. COD has literally murdered innovation in the FPS genre. After CoD4, everyone said "wow, we want COD money, let's make our version of COD". Crysis 2 is the best example: Crysis 1 had the insane, massive map, tactical "Power struggle" mode, with vehicles, and a money system, 32-player cap (although I saw this hacked to 128p once), and so on. Then Crysis 2 comes out on console, and all we get are tiny maps and variations of TDM - regardless of the fact that PS was the most popular mode in C1.
A friend of mine (who rarely plays ANY video games) put it best: "Why are they trying to get CoD money? Only CoD can get CoD money".
And he's right. People who like CoD are going to see the CoD clones, and think "why bother" - they are imitators of something they already have. A while back we had a great setup. CoD gave us more soldier based combat, while BF2 gave us more full-scale battles.
Now look at what we have now :rolleyes
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1. I enjoy CoD and am willing to try any other game if it sounds good. I've never seen anyone turn down a game because it's a "CoD clone."
2. Black Ops II will be focusing more on infantry play than killstreaks (I even heard of a mode that only has 3/5/7 killstreaks, but I forgot where exactly I saw it). Heck, if you only enjoy infantry with no killstreaks, you could play barebones matches (started in MW2, I believe) where they're disabled. Of course, there's less players, but you can't blame the developer for the community not wanting a challenge.
3. Battlefield 3 is still about full-scale battles. smile.gif

Of course when something as popular as CoD comes around, people are going want to imitate it. However, I think people throw around CoD clone a little too much. It's like the new "port." Homefront is really the only one I can think of that was a lot like CoD (also this one mobile game I forgot the name of..). Other games usually mentioned, like BF3 and Warfighter have a lot more differences than similarities. I guess you could say MoH 2010 was pretty close to CoD, but I think it was a middle-ground between BF and CoD, just as Warfighter is. Even Crysis 2 had a few things to make it unique.
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thread, please die..

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Only way to make things change is to NOT BUY any future COD game release.

Talk with our collective wallets and the game developers will have to start listening.
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