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Which game has a higher skill ceiling, TF2 or BF3?

Come on Riou.
We both know the answer is Quake 3.
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Come on Riou.
We both know the answer is Quake 3.

Which just so happens to also have one of the best netcode in any game. tongue.gif
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You're right, not everyone plays to be a pro gamer, but who wouldn't be able to guess that one. Games with a higher skill ceiling generally have a larger population of players on the PC. CS/CoD1/2 during its prime days/Quake during its prime days/SC2/DOTA2/LoL/etc.
For a casual shooter, sure BF3 fits that category. The one category it will also stay in, unlike the previous BattleFields.
None of this has anything to do with the topic though either.

WOW has the highest pop of players on pc and that game no way requires a high skill ceiling unless you are playing the arena which most of the population isnt, dota 2 and LOL are also ftp which factors into it, look at HON arguably more competitive than LOL but because it wasn't ftp it was not as huge. Bf3 can be competitive especially considering the other bf games had just as much variables and hit detection issues as bf3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umosAs2NFGw

I have already contributed to the topic already and stayed on the issue, others have just come in to vent how much they hate EA and bf3 without regarding the topic at all.
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Come on Riou.
We both know the answer is Quake 3.

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Do you have any numbers to back up your claim that FPS gamers have moved on? I actually kind of doubt that TF2 has a larger community then BF3.

BF3: 23,923 currently online playing on the PC.

TF2: 57,154 currently online playing on the PC.

TF2 holds higher numbers over all. BF3 overall has had a declining population period. Even at peak hours its not even half of what it was when the game launched.

To be completely honest, i'm surprised the population in BF3 isn't even lower. The game isn't all that fun, it was just too easy.

Thanks for having the actual numbers!
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BF3: 23,923 currently online playing on the PC.
TF2: 57,154 currently online playing on the PC.
TF2 holds higher numbers over all. BF3 overall has had a declining population period. Even at peak hours its not even half of what it was when the game launched.
To be completely honest, i'm surprised the population in BF3 isn't even lower. The game isn't all that fun, it was just too easy.

I agree, although i'm even more shocked by TF2. I guess they made a good choice with the cartoon graphics. Little kids and mainstream gamers can't seem to get enough of that terrible hat simulator.

Source engine is better than frostbite for FPS, IMO, the way it controls, etc is just much better and more fluid; as for "cartoony graphics", art style has nothing to do with how good a game is..I've seen plenty of games with cartoony graphics (GTA, for example) that most people love.
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BF3: 23,923 currently online playing on the PC.
TF2: 57,154 currently online playing on the PC.
TF2 holds higher numbers over all. BF3 overall has had a declining population period. Even at peak hours its not even half of what it was when the game launched.
To be completely honest, i'm surprised the population in BF3 isn't even lower. The game isn't all that fun, it was just too easy.

First of all one game is free to play the other isn't. also who knows how many idlers are in tf2. I just leave my game on on those idle servers for items to turn to scraps cause people on steam trades trade games for that, I would never play the game as it is just not fun. The game is nothing more than scrap generator at this point. Also you may not enjoy the game but guess what other people do, tf2 is easy as well, not everyone plays games to be pro gamers.

Half of the TF2 players online could be idlers (Hint: Not likely) and they'd still have more active players than BF3; and TF2 used to sit around 30k-40k before it was F2P, Valve essentially traded their audience with the move to F2P.
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Which game has a higher skill ceiling, TF2 or BF3?

It depends, I'd say BF3 if you're talking singular classes but TF2 if you multiclass, Demoman has completely different mechanics to Pyro which has completely different mechanics to engie, etc.

For example, I mostly play Pyro and Demoman in TF2, but also go Engie, Medic and Scout rarely, it'd be harder to be good at all those classes than just one (Obviously) or all the BF3 classes which is just slightly adjusting your play-style, but at the same time if you play one class in BF3 (I mostly played Assault) then it'd have a higher skill ceiling than just one class in TF2.
    
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High skill ceiling = Depth of Gameplay and refined netcode.
     
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Prepare for 2 different arguments.

Competitive BF3 is dead. Argument over.
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Competitive BF3 is dead. Argument over.

There was competitive BF3? News to me.
    
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Of course I understood that they went circles around you, thats still makes you a horrible player. In my close to 200 hrs of playing bf3 I have never have been, seen or heard of anyone getting circle strafed by the knife, even on the forums people dont whine about getting circle strafed by the knife, thats why you must be a horrible player to have this happen to you. How could you possibly be circle strafed by a knife multiple times at that. It has no lock, no lunge and takes 2 hits to kill. You have a better chance of getting killed by the bf2 knife.
4 rpgs to destroy a tank? why not shoot the rear and kill it in 1 or 2 hits? How many rpgs did u think it took to destroy a tank in bf2? Did you even play the previous bf games?
I do not know what you are talking about with the mouse acceleration it seems no different than bc2 to me if not a little better.
tac lights i repeat have been nerfed that video was from january, it still blinds players but that is the point of it. Its not meant to be used as a real light since everyone can see fine even on night maps without it.
From your post alone I can tell you suck and possibly havent even played the other bf games since u are whining that it takes several rockets to destroy a tank from its front armor while bf has always been like this, either shoot the rear and the sides or stop whining. What you offered was not constructive criticism it was ur own crappy experience because you are a bad player.
LOL people do not use the ingame voip in ps2. I tried to get a squad of guys working together via the ingame voip nobody said a word, the only response I got was be quiet and just play the game. Which is a shame because the ingame voip is ps2 is really good possibly one of the best due to proximity and squad voip. Ingame VOIP is nice to have but nobody uses it, even in bf2 nobody used it. Your best bet is to go on an outfit or squad's ts/vent server as you will actually find people talking.

You keep bringing the point of my lack of BF experience, please find another irrelevant point and move on.

Circle strafing happens with a knife when your gat is out of ammo, and your enemy turns into a manic and desperate offensive to melee attack you.

A tank is almost never in any position but head on and side on, Rarely did I find a tank that would not jerk around or attack any postition from head on. As attacking with the arse of your tank facing to your enemy is just plain dumb.

I know that RPG's didn't do much in BF2, atleast the tanks didn't auto repair!

Tac lights have always been for the cheap, low skill ceiling fitting, scrub players who's only hop of getting a kill is by using the cheapest tactic I have seen in a FPS game to date.

There is no whining, QQ, or rage in my posts. I am telling you how it is.

BC2 has no mouse acceleration when you turn it off, even with BF3 when I turned it of, its still there just not as severe.

http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/pc/Jesse_snipe/ Far from a bad player.
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There was competitive BF3? News to me.

Initially, yes. Sorry you missed out on such a short era.
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