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i wonder what windows 8 touchpads will look like? i feel like for windows 8 and gestures to work on laptops they are going to have to force oems to adopt common designs for touchpads that are gesture-friendly
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Originally Posted by Pengasus View Post

"If something is not broken, don't try to fix it" has been my ideology for anything related to computers.
I have windows 7 ultimate and it works like a charm. It's fast, gives no errors, compatible with everything (at least that i ever wanted to use or run) and very user friendly.
It gets updates constantly and never had any issues whatsoever.
So i really can't see any reason whatsoever to spend a couple hundred dollars for an operating system that will not only make any virtual difference to my day to day use, it possibly will hinder considering the hardware issues and manufacturers and software companies not approving of it.
Thanks but no thanks.
And to all those who say that we are bashing the product or we are haters or we are against innovation etc etc:
Not buying is not hating nor bashing. It's just that we can't justify the value in the purchase.

So, by your reasoning:

We should not have upgraded from DX9, because it still worked.
We should not have upgraded from XP, because it still worked.
Hell, we shouldn't have upgraded from DOS, because it still worked, right?
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I wonder how long it takes Apple to sue Logitech for making a touchpad, I'm sure they have some kind of patent infringement tongue.gif
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Nice try, but once again your epic forced attempted at trying to be devil's advocate is flawed.
Objective guy: I like this(btw, i'd like to add, how the hell can he be objective if he has a bias or preference to something?)
"Internet guy": I disagree with this.
"Objective guy" responds: QUIT BASHING the things I like.
confused.gif

Rubbish, tbh.

The truth exists in this thread. In your own words, not mine.

Note the difference between a person who can acknowledge that more than their opinion or similar exists:
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Originally Posted by TheByt3 View Post

SourceThis looks really great in my opinion.

And people who behave as if their opinion alone is all that matters, as if these products not catering to their specific needs is an insult to them.
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Originally Posted by joshd View Post

Or we could just use Windows 7 and not get a different UI shoved down our throat AND have our current hardware work?

(Who is forcing you to buy WIndows 8? Who says current pointing hardware doesn't work in W8?)
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Originally Posted by Boinz View Post

An additional hardware piece, to compensate for an additional UI feature no one asked for.

(Behaving as if nobody wants or likes the new UI simply because he doesn't)
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Agreed with the two previous posts. No thanks. I love you, Logitech, but I'm not changing my sexy hardware to use some crap UI.

(Behaving as if logitech are asking him to change hardware for an operating system he doesn't even like. Doesn't even make sense)

Seemingly feeling as though somebody is forcing them to buy these products. Who is forcing you? You can still use your regular mouse on the operating system you like, and people who like these new products can use them.

Not good enough for some reason. All things must be created for them!

Seemingly unable to realise that these products might not actually be aimed at them, given that none of them actually seem to like Windows 8 in the first place. (That would have been the first clue, but hey. What can you do? This is internet after all.)

Its the equivalent of a Nazi walking in on a Hanukkah celebration and complaining that there are too many Jews.

Nobody forced him to be there, nobody forced him go to a Hanukkah celebration, but for some reason he feels the need to walk into a Hanukkah celebration and be upset that he finds a Hanukkah celebration taking place.
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Originally Posted by Pengasus View Post

"If something is not broken, don't try to fix it" has been my ideology for anything related to computers.
I have windows 7 ultimate and it works like a charm. It's fast, gives no errors, compatible with everything (at least that i ever wanted to use or run) and very user friendly.
It gets updates constantly and never had any issues whatsoever.
So i really can't see any reason whatsoever to spend a couple hundred dollars for an operating system that will not only make any virtual difference to my day to day use, it possibly will hinder considering the hardware issues and manufacturers and software companies not approving of it.
Thanks but no thanks.
And to all those who say that we are bashing the product or we are haters or we are against innovation etc etc:
Not buying is not hating nor bashing. It's just that we can't justify the value in the purchase.

RIM tried that too and failed to adapt early. Now look what we have ....
The statement isn't always applicable tongue.gif.

Actually, I absolutely love Win 8 (Pro). I'm slower on my desktop now (Win 7) than I am on my laptop with Win 8. The only thing they are lacking is native mult-desktop support. The start screen is awesome.

Windows 8's new form seems to be great for anyone who is keyboard-heavy (eg, hit the windows key and type "Steam" vs clicking on it). The only thing I've found that limits that is the scrolling in to full content of most apps.

Win 7 does work very very well. But Win 8 works pretty well and (imo) is overall faster than Win 7.

OT:
Anyway, I don't see why anyone with a gaming mouse would buy some of these products when they can just program macros to perform the same functions (I think...).
Regardless, this would be great for people who have simple mice and would love more integration (or for laptop users who hate their touchpads...I <3 mine...).


What windows 8 needs, however, is LeapMotion integration (or smaller Kinect). That. Would. Be. Badass.
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Yuck, they are not going to work for any sort of mainstream business environment at all.

The new UI is not going to work in a desktop/laptop environment, how does M$ not get this?

Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to Windows 8 but why force keyboard and mouse users (who work efficiently) to use a tedious interface and/or unnecessary peripherals

not worried too much about the start menu I'm keeping my KB and mouse and installing classic shell, and probably will do so on customers computers.
The new UI is going to be a major Derp moment for the average user


In short
windows 8 = Bring it on! I like new stuff!
Metro (or whatever it is called now) = great for touch, bad for KB and mouse and these peripherals are impractical thumb.gif
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Yuck, they are not going to work for any sort of mainstream business environment at all.
The new UI is not going to work in a desktop/laptop environment, how does M$ not get this?
Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to Windows 8 but why force keyboard and mouse users (who work efficiently) to use a tedious interface and/or unnecessary peripherals
not worried too much about the start menu I'm keeping my KB and mouse and installing classic shell, and probably will do so on customers computers.
The new UI is going to be a major Derp moment for the average user
In short
windows 8 = Bring it on! I like new stuff!
Metro (or whatever it is called now) = great for touch, bad for KB and mouse and these peripherals are impractical thumb.gif

Try using it first. I've been using it for ~3 weeks now, and I see no problems with its usability over Windows 7 on a desktop.

The only issues I have with it are occasional firefox freezing when on flash pages, which I believe is due to nVidia drivers. Hopefully the new one released today resolves that issue.
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Yuck, they are not going to work for any sort of mainstream business environment at all.
The new UI is not going to work in a desktop/laptop environment, how does M$ not get this?
Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to Windows 8 but why force keyboard and mouse users (who work efficiently) to use a tedious interface and/or unnecessary peripherals
not worried too much about the start menu I'm keeping my KB and mouse and installing classic shell, and probably will do so on customers computers.
The new UI is going to be a major Derp moment for the average user
In short
windows 8 = Bring it on! I like new stuff!
Metro (or whatever it is called now) = great for touch, bad for KB and mouse and these peripherals are impractical thumb.gif

Who said these things are made for mainstream business? Since when has mainstream business ever mass transferred their systems to new operating systems until after years of release in the first place anyway?

The new UI HAS been working for me in a desktop/laptop environment for the last few months now, at work AND at home.....people have different needs, different uses for different things. How do Y rolleyes.gif U not get this?

Who is "forcing" you to use these peripherals? You can do everything these things can do with your regular mouse, just in a different way.

The touchpad is VERY practical for me, so you must mean that these peripherals are simply impractical for you?

Why do people have to be so "internet guy" all the time?
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(Behaving as if nobody wants or likes the new UI simply because he doesn't)

Wow, I do apologize for offending you good sir, it was not my intention to spread a message without the explicit IMO tag before or after. Thank you for warning me good internet citizen, otherwise people might have actually taken my words as an impossible to deny command to follow my will.

Whats even more contradictory is how you infer from my original sentence that I "behave" like nobody likes or wants the UI. That's a stretch isn't it?
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An additional hardware piece, to compensate for an additional UI feature no one asked for.

Lets break it down then.
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An additional hardware piece
True, its a hardware feature that isn't included in most mice.
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to compensate for an additional UI feature
We can certainly agree a fullscreen start menu is an additional UI feature to Windows as a whole
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no one asked for.
For this part, I really do apologize (no sarcasm) that you took this one too literally. It was more a generalization regarding the minority of windows users that prefer the new UI. You certainly are not "nobodies" and I'm sorry if that offended you. But the majority that don't prefer the UI in comparison to the minority that do tilts this part to refer to the majority that didn't ask for this UI feature.

Also I have not heard or seen anyone that petitioned or requested this UI or its features to a desktop environment (i'm welcome to sources that contradict this) so in part, that last part is still true.
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@Grizzleyboy

Nobody is. But you can bet your ass that Ms aint bringing the traditional desktop back. Ever. Metro is here to stay.

So, sooner or later support for Windows 7 will run out. Then what? We will have to upgrade obviously.

Then again:

People may pirate it (but at least it keeps Ballmer happy)

People may move to Linux (According to Ballmer this is a Cancer. What?)

Or:

MS reverse the decision, let users choose between metro and desktop

People complain enough to try and reverse the decision

Sales slump and Ballmer recognizes that we know what's best for us, and not him

People start using Cancer

Current hardware

My wireless mouse actually did NOT work with the dev. preview. Guess what? It's a Microsoft mouse. So their own hardware doesn't work with the OS. What? I had to use an old PS/2 Mouse

TL;DR:

Metro here to stay

Hence we are forced

Users don't buy or move to another OS = removal of Metro maybe
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