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I still don't really get how this works very well. So basically if I installed a game on my RAMdisk, it'll be loading up significantly faster than an ssd?
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I still don't really get how this works very well. So basically if I installed a game on my RAMdisk, it'll be loading up significantly faster than an ssd?

Basically, its a virtual drive that uses memory for read/writes/storage. The problem is when you shut the computer off the memory is cleared. So it will either copy everything to the harddrive, or delete it.. I used the Ramdisk program from dataram to make a drive that starts with windows and stores my paging file. Then deletes it when I shut the computer off. Gets rid of the read write on the SSD. BTW it doesnt matter how much ram you have Windows will always make and use a paging file.. Because its a jerk
    
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BTW it doesnt matter how much ram you have Windows will always make and use a paging file.. Because its a jerk

You can tell it not to create one at all after it's installed, but some programs won't run without one, regardless of how much memory you have, mostly old ones though. I think Tom's Hardware did a story on it a few years back when 12 and 16 gigs were getting popular.
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That's an interesting idea to use the ramdisk as your pagefile. Any reason NOT to do that?

Also, Does this decrease ram lifetime?
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That's an interesting idea to use the ramdisk as your pagefile. Any reason NOT to do that?
Also, Does this decrease ram lifetime?

does it matter? pretty much all ram has lifetime warranty..
 
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Radeon's program does have a feature to back up the ramdisk at selectable intervals, so that is a sort of plus, even though there's probably others that do this. On the other hand, they make you pay if you want sizes over 4gb (6 with their ram, I know it's like I'd rather get a free fries at mcdonalds), and others don't. I guess for the overclockers it comes down to the performance of the program, which according to my tests is about the same as the other popular programs. So yea, pretty much just a shaking of hands for marketing purposes.

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Sounds interesting, will test now.
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I've setup the ram disk to be my cache disk for FF and Chrome. Works well and fast! Using both i see that 300 Mb has been used for caching eek.gif
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That's an interesting idea to use the ramdisk as your pagefile. Any reason NOT to do that?
Also, Does this decrease ram lifetime?

Putting your page file in a RAMdisk does not help your system in any way. As explained by tompsonn in great detail:
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Now what happens if we move the page file to a RAM disk? Lets stick with our crappy system of 1GB of RAM and a 2GB paging file (min/max). Already, we can't put the paging file into a RAM disk! There isn't enough RAM! Okay, so lets make our system a little more modern with a 64-bit OS, we'll give it 4GB of RAM with a 2GB paging file. The total commit limit is 6GB. Let's pretend we have all of that available commit (impossible in the real world, but this makes it simple for the explanation).

The 2GB paging file is now on a RAM disk which is 2GB in size. The RAM disk driver has reserved 2GB of virtual memory. Windows has said "yes, I will reserve this memory for you for some time in the future".
Note that reservation alone does NOT contribute to commit usage, but in the case of the 2GB page file (because the page file is always completely allocated), the RAM disk is definitely using (committed) all of that memory it asked for/reserved. Its commit charge on the system as a whole is 2GB. The amount of system commit available is now only 4GB.

Note also that there are other memory usages that don't contribute to system commit either, but they are beyond the scope of this thread.

Let's say you fire up "HugeMemoryHogApp.exe", which at start up tries to allocate 3GB of virtual memory and touches/uses/commits it all. This succeeds, and brings our system commit down to a mere 1GB. What the hell, I had 6GB system commit available and only ran that one application which committed 3GB of memory, I should still have 3GB! Ah, but you see, the RAM disk has committed 2GB of its own to store the page file... in RAM! So effectively it is like having no page file at all. Without the page file you'd have 4GB total system commit, and that big allocation of 3GB brings system commit down to... guess what, 1GB (we've seen that number before, haven't we)!

http://www.overclock.net/t/1193401/why-it-is-bad-to-store-the-page-file-on-a-ram-disk
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