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post #1 of 9
10/10/12 at 9:53pm
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Hi guys, so i have a question, why would you plug a Wireless access Point to a Wireless Router?
the thing is that i have AT&t U-Verse, these guys placed a Wireless Router with 4 ports in the back, one of the ports is connected to one DVR and another to a Wireless Access Point (WAP) now my question is why? i know that also there's a wireless tv receiver and that one is using the WAP to connect to AT&T, but why use the WAP when there's already wireless capabilities on the wireless router? WAP has better range? how can i choose between wireless connection? like instead of using the wireless router how can i connect to the WAP? i don't seem to find the SSID of the WAP,... im not much of a network guy so i know pretty basic stuff biggrin.gif, i am just trying to understand how this thing works, any help is much appreciated, thank you!
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post #2 of 9
10/11/12 at 7:49am
Not all wireless is the same.

What kind of wireless protocols and frequencies does the "wirelsss router" support?
What kind of wireless protocols and frequencies does the WAP support?

802.11b 2.4GHz
802.11g 2.4GHz
802.11n 2.4GHz - 1 stream
802.11n 2.4GHz - 2 stream
802.11n 5GHz - 1 stream
802.11n 5GHz - 2 stream
802.11n 5GHz - 3 stream
802.11ac 2.4GHz - 1 stream
802.11ac 2.4GHz - 2 stream
802.11ac 5GHz - 1 stream
802.11ac 5GHz - 2 stream
802.11ac 5GHz - 3 stream

Then there's additional features like beamforming and non-standard features like Super G (compression, frame-bursting, channel bonding).





The other reason to use another WAP is to extend range.... run a long Ethernet cable and set up the WAP in another area.
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10/11/12 at 7:52am
It makes no sense to connect a WAP to a wireless router. The only situation in which that would make sense is if the AP was 50+ feet away from the router.
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10/11/12 at 8:01am
One scenario (and this is a stretch) that comes to mind is if you want to transfer files but people are using the wireless router, so instead you setup a different SSID on the wap, that people can use to transfer files and "occasionally" access the internet if need be. Maybe the WAP has N wireless capabilities? Again that's a stretch of the imagination.
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Well if you only have Wireless G like those 2Wire Modems, you could get a 802.11n / 802.11ac and get more bandwidth provided your devices supported it.
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10/11/12 at 6:44pm
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well, i entered the setup of the router, it has b and g capabilities, for some reason, i cannot identify the SSID of the WAP, is there any way to find it? i know the WAP is being used by the wireless tv receiver, because i had to pair the WAP with the wireless tv receiver, so if the wireless tv receiver is able to pair with the WAP it means that the SSID is being transmitted somehow, but on my laptop on the available connections i can't find it, there's only one weird wireless connection available under the name "Other Connection" but i cannot connect to it although it has no encyiption to gain access
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Wireless Router

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i was gonna write some specs but couldn't find them, im on class right now so im just being lazy i guess by not searching the specs, i just know by the setup that the router has b and g capabilities, the wap i have no idea i could not find it although the router shows all the devices that are connected to it wired and wireless, there are 2 devices that are 'unknown" for some reason, haven't been able to find out what devices are those, they could be my cellphone and my mom's, i would have to check on the MAC addresses, i just would like to know how to identify the WAP SSID and how to access to it, the freaking wireless tv receiver can, so there must be a way to allow computers to connect to it, any help is much appreciated, thank you!
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post #7 of 9
10/12/12 at 8:37am
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It makes no sense to connect a WAP to a wireless router. The only situation in which that would make sense is if the AP was 50+ feet away from the router.
Sure, it does.... if the WAP supports more features.
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well, i entered the setup of the router, it has b and g capabilities, for some reason, i cannot identify the SSID of the WAP, is there any way to find it? i know the WAP is being used by the wireless tv receiver, because i had to pair the WAP with the wireless tv receiver, so if the wireless tv receiver is able to pair with the WAP it means that the SSID is being transmitted somehow, but on my laptop on the available connections i can't find it, there's only one weird wireless connection available under the name "Other Connection" but i cannot connect to it although it has no encyiption to gain access
here are some pics

i was gonna write some specs but couldn't find them, im on class right now so im just being lazy i guess by not searching the specs, i just know by the setup that the router has b and g capabilities, the wap i have no idea i could not find it although the router shows all the devices that are connected to it wired and wireless, there are 2 devices that are 'unknown" for some reason, haven't been able to find out what devices are those, they could be my cellphone and my mom's, i would have to check on the MAC addresses, i just would like to know how to identify the WAP SSID and how to access to it, the freaking wireless tv receiver can, so there must be a way to allow computers to connect to it, any help is much appreciated, thank you!


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10/14/12 at 1:43pm
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Sure, it does.... if the WAP supports more features.
Ya' got me there. I hadn't considered that.

Back on topic. It's an AP for your cable TV. Link
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post #9 of 9
10/15/12 at 6:02pm
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thank you guys, very constructive replies, never thought that the wpa could be working at different frequencies, i guess the guys from at&t rserved the WPA just for the tv wireless receivers, so people would not connect to it to not to lag the tv reception i guess, well, the wireless router works good tho, so i don't complain, freaking netflix sometimes lags tho, i don't know why, i am supposed to have 12mbps internet, before it was 1mbps and netflix was working fine, any clues on this issue?
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