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Poll Results: Which one would you rather buy of these two?

 
  • 37% (3)
    Clevo W110ER
  • 62% (5)
    Alienware M14x
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post #1 of 22
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Hey guys, I'm currently in the market for a laptop upgrade. I'm rarely home, always on the move to work, school or the girlfriend's so I can't exactly enjoy my desktop. Specifically, I wanted something more portable which the W110er seems perfect (at least I can use it for school as well), but the resolution, screen real estate and GDDR3 was what worried me. The M14x is about as heavy as my current laptop (Sony VAIO F series) but the screen size is more appealing, as well as the GDDR5. However, being an Alienware... the price/performance takes a huge hit, as does the weight.

What I'm lookin' at is:
The i7-3610/3630QM
The 2GB 650M (I'd rather GDDR5...)
Intel Advanced Wireless Card
IC Diamond 7
Screen Resolution
Carbon Fiber Skin from XoticPC just because:p

Factors mainly I'm concerned about:
Portability
Power
Comfort

TL;DR

Which would you guys buy and why? Opinions are greatly appreciated and other suggestions are welcome.Heck, throw in whatever you'd personally customize if you'd like, I want to be swayed in some form.

Much appreciated!
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How much do you move around daily?

I'd go with the m14x. The 900p resolution would be awesome for both work and play. I'm a design student, 11.6" is too small for me. Even if it has the power I'd want the bigger resolution for workspace while in Adobe or Maya and gaming
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post #3 of 22
You'll probably want the W110er screen upgrade, otherwise you get low quality one
Therefore, with the current m14x-r2 coupon, they will be about the same price, both with upgraded screens.

If the the screen quality doesn't really matter to you, you also got the HP dv4t-5100 and Lenovo Y480

and also the Sony Vaio S 13.3", but it comes with the GT 640M LE
post #4 of 22
I've had both an m14x r1 and a w110er. When i had the m14x R1 i had way more temp issues than i ever had with the Clevo w110er. the w110er is just cooled better. At 1366x768 the gddr3 isn't really noticeable unless you plug in an external monitor and game on it.


EDIT: (Even with a repaste on the m14x R1 a 2720QM would hit 95C on a cooling pad in a normal temp room, about 75F.)
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I'd go with Sager NP6165 or the new Sager w/ 660M (NP6365 or something) over the M14x - it weighs less by .5 pounds. Also, its not fair to compare the R1 to the R2 - even if everything else is the same, the 3610QM is a 22nm quad-core, the CPU core uses less power, and if anything, the IGP may have kept it's same thermal envelope or increased it slightly. IGP won't be used when gaming.

15.6" screen is 80% larger than a 11.6", 14" is 45% larger than 11.6". Not to mention 1920x1080 is about 80% higher resolution than 1366x768. In comparison, going from 15.6" laptop to 21" external monitor is a 80% increase in area. It's a huge difference.
 
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How much do you move around daily?

I'd go with the m14x. The 900p resolution would be awesome for both work and play. I'm a design student, 11.6" is too small for me. Even if it has the power I'd want the bigger resolution for workspace while in Adobe or Maya and gaming

Let's just say I'm at home roughly 4-8 hours a day to sleep and/or eat. Else, I'm out and about and I always have my laptop with me when I am. The screen resolution is noted, though my intent is mostly for gaming so I don't think it's a huge bother at that size.
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You'll probably want the W110er screen upgrade, otherwise you get low quality one
Therefore, with the current m14x-r2 coupon, they will be about the same price, both with upgraded screens.

If the the screen quality doesn't really matter to you, you also got the HP dv4t-5100 and Lenovo Y480

and also the Sony Vaio S 13.3", but it comes with the GT 640M LE

W110er screen upgrade? Are you talking about the upgrade to a Matte screen? I'm questioning myself on whether or not to get that, actually.
Have you tried Lenovo laptops? I'm a little skeptical on whether or not to jump on that as well since it's pretty much offering the same performance for the M14x.
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I've had both an m14x r1 and a w110er. When i had the m14x R1 i had way more temp issues than i ever had with the Clevo w110er. the w110er is just cooled better. At 1366x768 the gddr3 isn't really noticeable unless you plug in an external monitor and game on it.


EDIT: (Even with a repaste on the m14x R1 a 2720QM would hit 95C on a cooling pad in a normal temp room, about 75F.)

Frightening indeed. I'm assuming the R2 is a little bit better, especially since Kepler has that Optimus function. It would probably overall drop temps unless I'm doing some sort of intense gaming session (but lately it hasn't last longer than a few hours so...)
Your issue on temps is duly noted, but my question to you is do you enjoy gaming on the W110er? Any comments on that?
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I'd go with Sager NP6165 or the new Sager w/ 660M (NP6365 or something) over the M14x - it weighs less by .5 pounds. Also, its not fair to compare the R1 to the R2 - even if everything else is the same, the 3610QM is a 22nm quad-core, the CPU core uses less power, and if anything, the IGP may have kept it's same thermal envelope or increased it slightly. IGP won't be used when gaming.

15.6" screen is 80% larger than a 11.6", 14" is 45% larger than 11.6". Not to mention 1920x1080 is about 80% higher resolution than 1366x768. In comparison, going from 15.6" laptop to 21" external monitor is a 80% increase in area. It's a huge difference.

That was particularly my reasoning for going with the M14x and the 900p screen upgrade because I would assume at that screen resolution I'd be looking at similar real estates with a 23" 1080p. I acknowledge the huge difference, but in particular I've had a 14" before and thought it was okay to game on it despite how ****ty the laptop was. The 3610QM has the same TDP as the 2620/2720QMs though, so I'd actually assume they're about the same in terms of heat generation.

So you'd rather go with the 15.6" screens then, I'm assuming? I'll admit the lesser weight will be a factor but I'm not so sure about portability, either. It'll be a factor to look into.


Much appreciation for all the comments so far guys! Now I'm a little torn between the 15.6"s and the other two.
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15.6" is ~1" "longer", but a little smaller on the width (smallest dimension of footprint). The 6165 is also ~.2" thicker. Still I would, it's just an insane increase in screen area and resolution. 900p isn't bad, but 1080p on a 15" is amazing. 768p on an 11.6" is also really dense but the screen's just so small I'd definitely get irked playing a FPS or RTS (I like looking at things larger than a dot.).

Lenovo Y480 seems pretty nice; overall their Ideapads are good (from experience, but I can't speak on Y480/Y580 personally). At the price though, you may as well pick up the 3-year accidental warranty for $150 - still $100ish cheaper than the Alienware, and 1.5 pounds lighter. Resolution is a bit meh, but I'd still take 14" 768p over 11.6" 768p - the 11" just doesn't have the physical size needed.

I won't get into the technical explanation but trust me (read: google it), i7-3610QM definitely uses less power than an i7-2630QM. The CPU has roughly the same transistor count, while the GPU is ~33% larger than the SB GPU. So basically.. the GPU makes a larger portion of the TDP, and it's not quite to the point where Intel's able to call it a 35-40W TDP.

Option 4/5 or whatever, a Gigabyte U2442 with Nvidia 640M- 14" 1600x900, weighs 3.5 pounds, pretty thin, could overclock close to 650M performance. Price is ~$1200 - not cheap - but it's a solid balance between lightweight, good performance, and good screen size/resolution.
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The i7s you see today in laptops are 35w quadcore CPUs. They're listed at 45w because of the iGPU.

I would honestly wait to see what comes of the new GPUs coming out soon from Nvidia. The GTX 670MX and the GTX 675MX. Both based on Kepler. biggrin.gif
     
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15.6" is ~1" "longer", but a little smaller on the width (smallest dimension of footprint). The 6165 is also ~.2" thicker. Still I would, it's just an insane increase in screen area and resolution. 900p isn't bad, but 1080p on a 15" is amazing. 768p on an 11.6" is also really dense but the screen's just so small I'd definitely get irked playing a FPS or RTS (I like looking at things larger than a dot.).
Lenovo Y480 seems pretty nice; overall their Ideapads are good (from experience, but I can't speak on Y480/Y580 personally). At the price though, you may as well pick up the 3-year accidental warranty for $150 - still $100ish cheaper than the Alienware, and 1.5 pounds lighter. Resolution is a bit meh, but I'd still take 14" 768p over 11.6" 768p - the 11" just doesn't have the physical size needed.
I won't get into the technical explanation but trust me (read: google it), i7-3610QM definitely uses less power than an i7-2630QM. The CPU has roughly the same transistor count, while the GPU is ~33% larger than the SB GPU. So basically.. the GPU makes a larger portion of the TDP, and it's not quite to the point where Intel's able to call it a 35-40W TDP.
Option 4/5 or whatever, a Gigabyte U2442 with Nvidia 640M- 14" 1600x900, weighs 3.5 pounds, pretty thin, could overclock close to 650M performance. Price is ~$1200 - not cheap - but it's a solid balance between lightweight, good performance, and good screen size/resolution.

First off, +rep for the great amount of helpful information you've provided. Second, now that you've opened my eyes a little more to "what is portability?", what do you think about MSI - in particular the GE60 series? The latest model looks damn thin, closer to Ultrabook status and is in fact even lighter than the Sagers that were recommended by nearly a pound.

Linky here

I'm looking around at all the possibilities and it seems like the GE60 trumps even the M17x and some Sagers in terms of portability and heat dissipation.
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Yes i enjoy gaming on the W110er, i dont have any issues with it, the keys are spaced alright. The TDP on the proc and gpu in the m14x R2 are the same thus i feel temperatures would be close. Where they have the fan on the m14x is just poor design. the GT 650m wont game too good at 1600x900 on the m14x anyways. It has really low memory bandwidth and will struggle HARD. But i have no problems at all gaming on my w110er. Slipped and SSD in there and cant even tell its a netbook. Once i focus on it its golden. It also doesnt burn your lap.


EDIT: I dont think waiting for the gtx 670mx or 675mx matters because the GT 650m is soldered to both motherboards and those gpus will be MXM 3.0b so they wont make it in the smaller laptops.
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