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You should have an option to stripe the data. Which sort of defeats the write speeds but boosts your read speeds of cached data.
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AMD should release a program that lets you use vram as a ramdisk. Especially with these new 3+ gb videocards. Maybe it could be setup like a dynamic link- if the vram isnt being used it creates the ramdisk and copies the designated files to vram. If you run a game or something that requires the vram then it directs the dynamic link to use the actual disk. Letting you game and be maximally productive.
The overhead and complexity would not be worth it.
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Yup. Good $ for Dataram. And it looks like Patriot Memory is also in on this with all of the "AMD Memory" advertising on the page.
Patriot is the memory partner for AMD Memory.

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I think they should release an OpenCL program for their APUs so we can tap into the graphics power to use for compute. Parallel processing on a single chip. smile.gifsmile.gif
OpenCL already does that.

You can't write a program that splits a thread apart since a thread is already " the smallest sequence of programmed instructions that can be managed independently".

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I like the industry accepting Ramdisks more, even if it just a rebranding of the Dataram program.
The industry has been utilizing RAMDisks for decades..... however, a much better paradigm is having programs themselves utilize more memory.

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ok. here's the question, how would you go about setting the ramdrive up to be used to store cashe. wackosmiley.gif , i have mine setup as pagefile (4gb's)
Yeah, don't do that: http://www.overclock.net/t/1193401/why-it-is-bad-to-store-the-page-file-on-a-ram-disk/0_100

Mark Russinovich (a developer of the Windows kernel and memory system) calls that "ridiculous".
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You should have an option to stripe the data. Which sort of defeats the write speeds but boosts your read speeds of cached data.
Why? Striping to the same storage system (RAM in this case) yields no benefit but adds overhead.
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The overhead and complexity would not be worth it.
Patriot is the memory partner for AMD Memory.
OpenCL already does that.
You can't write a program that splits a thread apart since a thread is already " the smallest sequence of programmed instructions that can be managed independently".
The industry has been utilizing RAMDisks for decades..... however, a much better paradigm is having programs themselves utilize more memory.
Yeah, don't do that: http://www.overclock.net/t/1193401/why-it-is-bad-to-store-the-page-file-on-a-ram-disk/0_100
Mark Russinovich (a developer of the Windows kernel and memory system) calls that "ridiculous".
Why? Striping to the same storage system (RAM in this case) yields no benefit but adds overhead.

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Go Duckie!

P.S ... what about fibers? tongue.gif (Not really serious ... fibers on a GPU would be an interesting concept... albeit pointless).
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mmm, ok so it will speed up web browsing a little. How would this benefit games? You cannot install a game on the "disc" as will be deleted on power down.

Confused.
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Go Duckie!
P.S ... what about fibers? tongue.gif (Not really serious ... fibers on a GPU would be an interesting concept... albeit pointless).
Fiber is just a medium though.

The benefit of using fiber is higher throughput due to multiplexing, lower signal loss, less interference, etc. However, we mostly use electricity-based computing.... there needs to be convertors on both ends of the fiber connection. This adds cost, complexity, and latency. Until we see more optical-based processing, you won't see fiber as an internal connection.

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mmm, ok so it will speed up web browsing a little. How would this benefit games? You cannot install a game on the "disc" as will be deleted on power down.
Confused.
It doesn't really.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, a RAM disk is just a very big cache for your hard drive?
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Correct me if i'm wrong, a RAM disk is just a very big cache for your hard drive?

No, it's a virtual disk created by a program. The OS sees it just like any other disk.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, a RAM disk is just a very big cache for your hard drive?

It can be just like another disk drive if you want. The choice of what you do with it is up to you.
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mmm, ok so it will speed up web browsing a little. How would this benefit games? You cannot install a game on the "disc" as will be deleted on power down.
Confused.

You can install a game to it if you have enough RAM. As for the deleted on power down this program has a feature to save on shutdown and load on startup an image of the RAMdisk from whatever drive you tell it to save to. It's really simple people. But again, you will have a longer OS startup time and shutdown time the larger the RAMdisk image is and the slower the drive you save that image to. I also don't think it's a good idea to install any MS programs to it as I'm not sure how that updating process that MS goes through would interact with the RAMdisk. But any other program or game should be fine so long as you have
a) the RAM size (and you need to make sure you have enough left over for the OS and programs to use while actually running so 4GB + however big you think you need a RAMdisk to be)
b) a drive to back up the RAMdisk image to (IF you want to preserve the contents)

It's really that simple. I use it for just about every program I have in Windows outside of Steam/Games and MS programs. It's an awesome feeling having XBMC open in 1second or less. Strangely, iTunes is the only program that didn't improve much when installed to my RAMdisk. Guess Apple really sucks at coding?
     
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Hmm sounds nice but I need a ~16GB RAM disk.
Now AMD has to sell a card with a pathetic amount of VRAM, e.g. 128GB.
I would twitter that and "LIKE IT" till the wheels fall off.
Till then I stick with my "normal" RAM wink.gif
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It's really that simple. I use it for just about every program I have in Windows outside of Steam/Games and MS programs. It's an awesome feeling having XBMC open in 1second or less. Strangely, iTunes is the only program that didn't improve much when installed to my RAMdisk. Guess Apple really sucks at coding?

I quit using iTunes long ago; amazing how that program performs like it is on outdated hardware even on the most high end Windows rigs.
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