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How dare you say such a terrybull thing? You will be covered in tar and feathers. biggrin.gif
I'm an AMD fan dude. But trust me on this. Show me anything to convince me otherwise and i will delete my previous comment;P I expected it in terms of IPC to be on par with the Phenom II's which is a little over a two year architecture but PD did not even deliver this. If not even matching a two year old architecture a part from power consumption is good then i do not know what your idea of bad is.smile.gif
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post #92 of 131
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I'm an AMD fan dude. But trust me on this. Show me anything to convince me otherwise and i will delete my previous comment;P I expected it in terms of IPC to be on par with the Phenom II's which is a little over a two year architecture but PD did not even deliver this. If not even matching a two year old architecture a part from power consumption is good then i do not know what your idea of bad is.smile.gif

If you were even remotely following Trinity news, you would have known that Piledriver is not catching up in terms of IPC. Piledriver's major tweaks and enhancements are on the power consumption and increasing clock speed side.
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post #93 of 131
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If you were even remotely following Trinity news, you would have known that Piledriver is not catching up in terms of IPC. Piledriver's major tweaks and enhancements are on the power consumption and increasing clock speed side.
Speculation was that they were to be at par with the IPC of the Phenom II's and better IPC as compared to BD. What was promised was 7% IPC improvement alongside 7% clock frequency improvement.
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So the 2500k is still the CPU AMD CPUs are compared against (and can't match) almost 2 years later? redface.gif

Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to seem like I'm anti-AMD here. I have about 50 shares in AMD so I'd only hope they do well. It's just shameful to see how "weak" AMD are in comparison to Intel. =/
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 10/13/12 at 11:25am
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post #95 of 131
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So the 2500k is still the CPU AMD CPUs are compared against (and can't match) almost 2 years later? redface.gif

Not sure why. The 3570K is the logical processor to compare piledriver too.
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post #96 of 131
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Speculation was that they were to be at par with the IPC of the Phenom II's and better IPC as compared to BD. What was promised was 7% IPC improvement alongside 7% clock frequency improvement.

The Anandtech and Tom's Hardware Trinity review months ago clearly showed that IPC was not up to Phenom II levels. It also showed that IPC can be up to 15% higher, but is usually lower, depending on the application. Clock speed is clock speed... in this case, the FX-8350 is 10% higher in multithreaded clock speed, but the same in single-threaded.
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The Anandtech and Tom's Hardware Trinity review months ago clearly showed that IPC was not up to Phenom II levels. It also showed that IPC can be up to 15% higher, but is usually lower, depending on the application. Clock speed is clock speed... in this case, the FX-8350 is 10% higher in multithreaded clock speed, but the same in single-threaded.
Wait what?
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Wait what?

FX-8350 stock speed is 4.0 ghz, compared to the 3.6 of the FX-8150. However, both of them turbo to 4.2 ghz, so single-threaded frequency is the same.
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post #99 of 131
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So the 2500k is still the CPU AMD CPUs are compared against (and can't match) almost 2 years later? redface.gif

Another redundant post by a 2500k user.
    
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The Anandtech and Tom's Hardware Trinity review months ago clearly showed that IPC was not up to Phenom II levels. It also showed that IPC can be up to 15% higher, but is usually lower, depending on the application. Clock speed is clock speed... in this case, the FX-8350 is 10% higher in multithreaded clock speed, but the same in single-threaded.
Trinity reviews, EXACTLY but since these were APU's their CPU power was not the highlight, combining CPU and GPU power was and that was achieved. PD was expected to be better than Trinity in terms of CPU. Otherwise whats the difference between the A10-5800K and the Fx 4300, they are nearly the same price. The APU is just does not have l3 cache but compensates with good IGP performance. In that case taking CPU power into account the APU is better than PD. The IGP compensates for the loss of cpu power but what compensates for PD?
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