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The motherboard had a lot of dust, and hair, and fuzz, and smoke residue.

Wow. The previous owner should have never got this board. What a horrible way to treat it D:
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Wrecker66, I ordered the bios chip. I do have a question for you before I replace it.
Since this has dual bios and both chips are bad. Which one should I replace?
The main or the backup bios? I'm guessing the main of course.
And since it has switches on the bios, I should set them to M/B (1) main bios,
and SB (3) single bios. That seems to make the most sense. (I think)

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Hurricane7 View Post

Hey DBVD,

I just got a computer with this motherboard and it cycles on and off during boot.
The motherboard had a lot of dust, and hair, and fuzz, and smoke residue.
It appears that both of the bios chips are corrupted.
I'm going to buy that bios chip that Wrecker66 said fixed the problem.

But soldering is something I can help you with....

Thank you very much for your response Hurricane7! Even more, thank you for your offer to help, and your excellent tips on soldering.

Now maybe I can help you...

Great news... I was able to recover my machine and BIOS! I don't know if yours is recoverable, but I will share what I did.

First, I have found that the stalled error code "32" is recoverable. I have gotten the machine into that state many times now since my previous posts, and recovered every time... with a bit of fiddling and work. (This was when using the BETA F7a BIOS, and also a modded F7a, referred to as F7a Mod4).

z77xup7_mod4_f7a.zip 3862k .zip file

When the machine is really hung with the endless booting (mine was doing that too), try this: Turn power supply switch to off. Unplug power cord. Hold down the top MB CMOS reset switch for like 10 seconds. Eject the button battery. Use the edge of the button battery to short the two battery leads. Do this also for the two CMOS reset pins near the battery socket and other connectors (bottom). Now, let it sit like that for hours. I just did it over night. Put it all back together. Put BIOS SB switch into Single BIOS mode (right switch to the right position), M/B switch to Main BIOS (left switch to the left position). Power up.

You may have to press the reset switch if it hangs. If you CAN get back in, have the F5 BIOS ready on a USB flash drive and insert it. Use Q-flash and flash it!!! Once restarts, go into BIOS again and BE SURE TO LOAD THE "Optimized Defaults"!!! Save and restart, then you should be recovered.

Now...

For the pesky stalled error code "32": You can first try pressing the reset switch each time you get the 32, and perhaps eventually (for me it was usually between 3 to 5 times), it will finally move past it and you can get back into BIOS. If so, I recommend Q-flashing back to F5, load "The Optimized Defaults", then you should be back.

If using the reset switch isn't enough, here is what has worked for me every time (similar to above): Try the reset switch a few times. If no good, turn off the power supply switch. HOLD DOWN THE POWER SWITCH!!! You can watch the orange on-motherboard power switch until its light is completely dark (no more juice in the system). Unplug the power cord. Wait for a bit... maybe 20 to 30 seconds is all, then try this procedure over again... a few times... until hopefully it recovers, as it has for me multiple times now.

Well, let me know if this works for you, as I would really like to know.

Thank again for your help!!!
Edited by DBVD - 4/5/16 at 9:17pm
post #574 of 580
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Wrecker66, I ordered the bios chip. I do have a question for you before I replace it.
Since this has dual bios and both chips are bad. Which one should I replace?
The main or the backup bios? I'm guessing the main of course.
And since it has switches on the bios, I should set them to M/B (1) main bios,
and SB (3) single bios. That seems to make the most sense. (I think)

Thanks!

I've already stated this, but just to be clear... both of mine also "appeared" to be "dead", but following my previously posted procedures, was able to recover both of them... looking at a running machine now. thumb.gif
post #575 of 580
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Wrecker66, I ordered the bios chip. I do have a question for you before I replace it.
Since this has dual bios and both chips are bad. Which one should I replace?
The main or the backup bios? I'm guessing the main of course.
And since it has switches on the bios, I should set them to M/B (1) main bios,
and SB (3) single bios. That seems to make the most sense. (I think)

Thanks!

i replaced the main bios
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Hey DBVD,

Thanks for all the excellent tips on getting it to actually post, and get past the "32" error.
I tried all sorts of combinations, lol, and yes it posted and I made it to the bios. Then Q-Flash.
I flashed it with the F5 bios. Loaded in the optimized defaults and saved! Yay.
Windows 10 actually started. Then it gave a BSOD thread initialization error. Darn!
This is where I held my breath..... will it boot again and post or "32" error? headscratch.gif

Rebooted and watched the led......15......36......32.....stop! eek.gif

It looks like the chip is damaged and won't even hold a successful bios flash.
Darn! Oh well. Thanks for all the excellent tips. Almost worked! smile.gif
Lets see if a fresh new chip does the job. I'll update after the operation.
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Hey DBVD,

Thanks for all the excellent tips on getting it to actually post, and get past the "32" error.
I tried all sorts of combinations, lol, and yes it posted and I made it to the bios. Then Q-Flash.
I flashed it with the F5 bios. Loaded in the optimized defaults and saved! Yay.
Windows 10 actually started. Then it gave a BSOD thread initialization error. Darn!
This is where I held my breath..... will it boot again and post or "32" error? headscratch.gif

Rebooted and watched the led......15......36......32.....stop! eek.gif

It looks like the chip is damaged and won't even hold a successful bios flash.
Darn! Oh well. Thanks for all the excellent tips. Almost worked! smile.gif
Lets see if a fresh new chip does the job. I'll update after the operation.

DON'T GIVE UP YET!!! biggrin.gif

You are close I think, and I really do NOT believe the chip is bad.

Try this... (I also did this, but didn't mention it previously): I remember reading a few years ago about how these new BIOS work, in that they count successful, non-successful posts / boots, and take various actions on these results. Knowing this, here is what I did, and recommend you do:

1) First... (I did not have to do this, but I'm recommending you do), disconnect your OS, and any other, disk drives. I was not having BSOD issues at the time, so you don't want to complicate things. For now, just remove it from the equation.

2) If you don't have one already, create a Win 10 USB flash drive installer. USE THIS AS YOUR RELIABLE BOOT DRIVE! wink.gif When it boots, go through a few steps / screens, but ultimately choose Exit and restart.

This will give you a successful boot for the BIOS to take note of.

Now...

3) Repeat procedures as before until you get back to functional BIOS, F5.

4) Again, load Optimized Defaults.

5) Save & Exit.

4) Do this four, five, or more times in succession.

It may sound crazy, but I assure you - this works!

I went through this, and only doing one or two reboots left me with unreliable results. But after I did this multiple times, and sorry, I don't know what the magic number (I think it might be three), but four or five times will for sure do the trick.

Also remember that at some point, the GA-Z77X-UP7 WILL, on it's own, copy the Main BIOS to the Backup BIOS; we just don't know that magic number either.

Your chip isn't bad (I don't believe). Think about it: When you flash it, not only does it copy the ROM file to the BIOS chip, but it does a VERIFY process afterwards. If there were a problem, it either wouldn't copy in the first place, or wouldn't verify afterwards.

ROUND TWO!
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hehe awsome post DBVD!!thumb.gif never give up biggrin.gif



@Hurricane also remove everthing like a GPU and stuff. just leave the board proc and ram
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DON'T GIVE UP YET!!! biggrin.gif

You are close I think, and I really do NOT believe the chip is bad.

Try this...
.....................................

ROUND TWO!

Guess what? YOU WERE RIGHT DBVD!!! biggrin.gif
I kept trying different ways to boot and get it to the splash screen. Nothing worked.
I was just about ready to solder in that new chip (and hope it worked)
Just when I was about to give up.....I looked at all the stuff I needed to pull to get the motherboard out.
I figured I'd give it a couple more tries. After the second try it FINALLY went past error 32!! On backup bios.
I flashed the same bios 3 times..lol....then ran a Win 10 starter usb on boot about 8 times.
I knew I needed to flash the main bios.....so I took a chance. I got into the bios from the backup bios chip.
Then......I flipped the switch to main bios....and held my breath because I figured it would freeze up since it was corrupted.
The led lit up next to the main bios and it didn't freeze!. So I went ahead and ran Q-flash. Again 3 times. lol
Now with BOTH bios chips with a fresh F5 bios flashing I never had the problem again! biggrin.gif

Thanks a LOT DBVD and Wrecker66 ! thumb.gifcheers.gifspecool.gif
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Have a weird glitch I'm hoping might be able to help with.

Recently started the quest to squeeze out a little more life from my I7 3770k and picked up GA-Z77X-UP7 as it seemed very solid for overclocking and supported 3-Way SLI.

Overlocking went solid, have a nice stable 4.5ghz at about 70c under prime95 load with 1.28v but I've got a weird mouse issue that keeps popping up.

Basically from time to time the mouse acts as if the middle click has been locked, preventing any tabing etc until I mash the middle button. I mash the button and it reoccurs after a while

-Ruled out the mouse (had a spare of the same model)
-Seen a couple articles about multiplier messing USB devices so pulled it back to stock 100
-Put a fresh image on a spare drive
-Swapped the memory and adjusted the timing from XMP
-Swapped USB hubs
-Removed every USB device but the Keyboard and mouse
-Moved USB ports
-Disabled middle click (redundant with OS reimage test)
-Disabled Handoff and downgraded to USB2 in BIOS
-Downgraded the overclocking to 4gzh in steps.
-Disabled and removed USB drives and let them reacquire.
-Swapped with another GA-Z77X-UP7 to rule that out.
-Prime95'ed for hours to see if it was something random instability I was missing.


Hardware:
GA-Z77X-UP7
I7 3770K
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Thoughpower 1000w
Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT High Performance Water / Liquid CPU Cooler. 120mm
Corsair Vengeance K70 Black
EVGA GTX 980TI FTW 1
EVGA GTX 980TI FTW 2
Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce
Microsoft Sidewinder 1


Exact build:
http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/6531230
Edited by Thirdstorm - 7/26/16 at 8:19am
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