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post #31 of 71
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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

no, he have no idea on what he is talking about.

First of all I never said they were identical, second care to explain why you said I had "no idea"?

3960X die picture from techreport, Xeon Sandy-E are the same except the two blank core slot are enabled.


Xeon E5-2600(8 core Sandy-E Xeon) picture from Tom's hardware, see the similarity(rotate this 180 degrees and it looks identical to the 3960X above)?


The Tom's article goes into quite a bit of depth explain the usefulness of Xeon chips.
Edited by sherlock - 10/11/12 at 10:31pm
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post #32 of 71
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First of all I never said they were identical, second care to explain why you said I had "no idea"?
3960X die picture from techreport, Xeon Sandy-E are the same except the two blank core slot are enabled.

Xeon E5-2600(8 core Sandy-E Xeon) picture from Tom's hardware, see the similarity(rotate this 180 degrees and it looks identical to the 3960X above)?

it is the same die.
post #33 of 71
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it is the same die.

Which was my point, Xeon Sandy-E and i7 Sandy-E are built on the same Die, 8 core Xeons are the cream of the crop, those rejects goes into the 3960X pool, then rejects from the 3960X pool goes into the 3930K pool, at no point did I say the Chips are "identical", just said they are all on the same die and i7 are lower end rejects not fit for uber high end professional grade as Intel defines it.
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yeah it's all similar man, we're all just buying a defective/rejected xeons with locked cores, rolleyes.gif

Ive hear nothing but you saying everyone is wrong, but yet no explanation to why. Care to elaborate?
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post #35 of 71
People who want to, and have the money.

or small/big companies.
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post #36 of 71
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I'm just trying to see where a Xeon really pushes ahead of the other CPUs.

A 2500k/3570k is perfect for gaming. There's no reason real reason to get anything above that.

Now If you do things like encoding, compressing, and rendering than you might want something with more cores and hyper threading like an i7 3770k.

What does a Xeon do better than a high end i7 processor? Ok, so there are Xeon's with 16 cores. What kind of work would require this many cores?
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post #37 of 71
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yeah it's all similar man, we're all just buying a defective/rejected xeons with locked cores, rolleyes.gif

That would be true.
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I'm just trying to see where a Xeon really pushes ahead of the other CPUs.
A 2500k/3570k is perfect for gaming. There's no reason real reason to get anything above that.
Now If you do things like encoding, compressing, and rendering than you might want something with more cores and hyper threading like an i7 3770k.
What does a Xeon do better than a high end i7 processor? Ok, so there are Xeon's with 16 cores. What kind of work would require this many cores?

To be honest, I use my rig basically just for browsing, videos, gaming etc, but I do regret getting a 2500k not because of need but want. I would have gone for a 3820 or at worst, a 2600k/2700k/3770k. Not everybody gets a computer JUST for gaming. Like I dont need a U2410 for gaming, as a matter of fact, it not the best choice for hardcore gamers, however, I appreciated the colors. Enthuiasts often have or want "unnessecary hardware power" for just the sake of benchmarking, bragging power, etc. Other people would use it for work purposes, to save time which could be used for further revenues . Some people would use it for folding, super computers, etcs. IMO
post #39 of 71
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Ive hear nothing but you saying everyone is wrong, but yet no explanation to why. Care to elaborate?

i started telling him that he is wrong because of this statement,

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The Xeon chips are the cream of the crop designed to run with all 8 cores all the chips that got rejected gets into the 3960X binning with 2 core diabled, those that failed that become 3930K or 3820.

Some time this happens to Graphic cards too, for example

Top end Kepler Chips-> Tesla 20K(super computer use)->rejects->Quadro(professional)->rejects->Geforce GTX *80 cards->rejects Geforece GTX *70 cards->rejects-> Gefroce *60Ti

he's right about the xeon and ivybridge-e though
post #40 of 71
^ the gpu statement various. A x60 ti could use a completely different die. But IMO, the best goes to professional lines first, and then consumers. IMO
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