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Originally Posted by RKTGX95 View Post

if you really want a good article about the subject of the possibility that we are in a simulation read this:
http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html
it is better put IMO.

It sums it up nicely at the end too.
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Unless we are now living in a simulation, our descendants will almost certainly never run an ancestor-simulation.

1. We are in a simulation.
2. We are not in a simulation.

If (2) is true we can be almost certain (extreme probability) that no other simulations exist.

If (1) is true we can be almost certain that all simulations have an ancestor simulation.

In our current understanding of Science, the default position is (2), in which if there is no evidence for a proposition it is not to be held as true.

However, even if (1) were proven to be true, we would have no way of identifying what constitutes a non-simulation existence. Therefore we would have to conclude that a simulation existence is the same as a non-simulation existence in our own perception. Therefore our existence is a not a simulation.

Both propositions lead to the same probable conclusion.

We are probably not in a simulation.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 10/12/12 at 9:57am
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What if that was the entire purpose of the simulation? To see if we could figure things out and, if so, how long would it take tongue.gif

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Edit-If the simulation becomes self aware that it is in fact a simulation would that not corrupt any future data? I'd like to restart the level please tongue.gif
Edited by BulletSponge - 10/12/12 at 10:20am
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Douglas Adams knew more than what he was letting on...so maybe the mayan prediction of 2012 is s y2k like experience and some being in the sky didnt think hed let us live for this long o.o ( or she if you want to cover every argument or maybe even sheheshehe?)
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Douglas Adams knew more than what he was letting on...so maybe the mayan prediction of 2012 is s y2k like experience and some being in the sky didnt think hed let us live for this long o.o ( or she if you want to cover every argument or maybe even sheheshehe?)

The Mayan calendar didn't take leap years into account, so technically for them "21st Dec 2012" happened about 5 months ago and if we were going on the Mayan calendar now it would be 19th May 2013 today.
    
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Were the sims for another being 0_o
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The Mayan calendar didn't take leap years into account, so technically for them "21st Dec 2012" happened about 5 months ago and if we were going on the Mayan calendar now it would be 19th May 2013 today.
See this? This is me oneeyedsmiley02.png This? This is you devil.gif , this is me after you: who-let-rip-smiley.png ....and now this is me in the aftermath cryingsmiley.gif . I hope you're happy for squashing my hopes and dreams of connecting anything and everything
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This thread would be a good time to mention Ockham's principle.
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A common paraphrase of Ockham's principle, originally written in Latin, is "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one."

Chances that the universe is a giant simulation, vs. changes that the universe is not a simulation.

Sure it's theoretically possible, but I don't see it as probable.
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The Mayan calendar didn't take leap years into account, so technically for them "21st Dec 2012" happened about 5 months ago and if we were going on the Mayan calendar now it would be 19th May 2013 today.

The Mayan calender doesn't need leap years http://www.2012hoax.org/maya-calendar#toc14
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Cool, so intelligent design is socially acceptable as long as it is a computer simulation, seeded from a more intelligent civilization, etc.. But the fact that there could be a supreme being (God) well that is just silly.
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Maybe we'll know some day.

Well, maybe not us, but the human race.
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