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I'm doing a new build for a friend of mine who as asked me to build him a rig specific for his needs. He is not a gamer, but accesses tons of lots of video & audio off of secure servers for football coaching.

Specific needs:
Blu Ray
TV Tuner
Mid-Tower Build
Windows 7 or 8


So what we're looking for here is a mid level, media centric PC. Graphics card doesn't need to be high end but able to handle
the load for HD video.

Looking for about 8GB of Memory or whatever you recommend.

Monitors, keyboards, speakers not needed.


Help please??
    
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No Gaming? Go ITX without a doubt. Will post a build later.

Here is a build
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PCPartPicker part list
Memory: G.Skill NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec ISK 310-150 Mini ITX Desktop Case w/150W Power Supply ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: ASRock E350M1 AMD E-350 APU (1.6GHz, Dual-Core) AMD A50M Hudson M1 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo ($94.99)
Other: Slim Blu-ray ($91.99)
Other: TV Tuner w/ low profile bracket ($109.99)
Total: $434.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
Mobo/CPU Combo
Slim Blu-ray
TV Tuner

This is plenty for HD Streaming.
Edited by Ironman517 - 10/12/12 at 8:48am
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A dual core llano or trinity build is my suggestion however since you have a lot of excess budget to work with it wouldn't hurt to bump it up to a quad with tons of memory and a nice SSD/Case/PSU etc...


Something like this:

llano build:

CPU/GPU/Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1075263
If this machine is going to be used for coaching I expect it might be moved around frequently, this is a great mid-tower case for portability as it has a very rugged handle. I realize that llano on FM1 is considered "dead" for upgrade path but honestly, normal people don't upgrade CPUs anymore. By the time the machine actually needs a CPU upgrade, it will be time to replace the whole rig. FM1 has a lower buy in point for a given CPU performance right now, and the slight extra GPU performance of trinity is not going to be a factor for this build.

MOBO/OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.836347
I'm suggesting this MOBO because it has has HDMI, DVI, and VGA . Many less expensive boards don't have all 3. For a media concentric machine, having all interface options is convenient as the machine may need to be connected to different video devices over the years. The combo savings with OS is just icing on the cake. Also, if you are building a mid-tower machine anyway, may as well have a full ATX board in there, and with that in mind, for FM2 there are less options to choose from at this time for boards, and less feedback available.

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164
Assuming most of the video content stays on the server side, this should be all the space the machine ever needs for OS, programs, swap space, etc. Might as well go with a 256GB size here so that there is some room for some video content on the machine without the need for a connection to the server.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226333
This is overkill but will allow the on chip GPU to perform at it's best. The excess of memory may never be used but if the coach wants to start editing video the extra memory will come in handy.

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182081
Uber efficiency, long warranty, if the budget can fit it, go for it.

Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1074037

Tuner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116015

That's $965 shipped. Not a ton of performance here but that's not the goal, this build has a lot of quality crammed in.

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"normal people don't upgrade CPUs anymore" is no excuse for taking FM1 when an FM2 could be had for the same price and CPU power matters no more than GPU power in this situation. The oncoming of HSA could change that mentality entirely. Who knows. The point is, making that assumption won't be any useful when you're ignoring the other benefits - it should be noteworthy that Trinity APU provides more instructions-per-watt through consuming less power for the same task.

The coach can also get a 2x4GB DDR3-1600 kit now and add the second one later if it is ever needed for video editing. It's that simple. Even then, I estimate that no more than 4GB will be needed to start and 8GB if video editing is pursued. And I say this from experience. I cannot use more than 8GB of RAM editing high definition uncompressed cineform codec 1080p video from professional video recording equipment.

The main media server in my house does most of the same things as this proposed build (obvs not to a higher extent but still) with just 1GB of DDR2. It's responsible for media transfer throughout all PCs in my household through the gigabit and wi-fi network. I can laglessly stream 1080p video from the downstairs to an upstairs PC.
Edited by xd_1771 - 10/14/12 at 12:55am
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Oh looks very nice. Question for you though. The CPU / GPU Combo... Do you think that would require an upgrade in Heatsink or the stock one should do just fine??
Thanks for the help.. I bookmarked all those links for purchase!
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

"normal people don't upgrade CPUs anymore" is no excuse for taking FM1 when an FM2 could be had for the same price and CPU power matters no more than GPU power in this situation.

Llano's Athlon II architecture is stronger in many FPU and multi-threaded tasks compared to trinity. I fail to see how FM1 looses validity here. Yes, FM2 is ALSO a good choice for this build. I have not seen any evidence to support the premise that there is "no excuse" to build an FM1 based machine at this time. The price points of FM1 CPUs and MOBOs with the available combos and promotions are typically slightly lower right now so llano is still holding a good value position for it's intended application.

Quote:
The oncoming of HSA could change that mentality entirely. Who knows. The point is, making that assumption won't be any useful when you're ignoring the other benefits - it should be noteworthy that Trinity APU provides more instructions-per-watt through consuming less power for the same task.

The instruction/watt performance of trinity trades blows with llano depending on the situation. The differences are often within a margin of error. The potential gains from "HSA" related performance only apply if the more expensive A10-5800K is chosen over the A8-3850. Higher price comes with greater performance, nothing new there. The A8-3850 is priced BELOW the A8-5600K, which makes it a pretty good value right now.
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The coach can also get a 2x4GB DDR3-1600 kit now and add the second one later if it is ever needed for video editing. It's that simple. Even then, I estimate that no more than 4GB will be needed to start and 8GB if video editing is pursued. And I say this from experience. I cannot use more than 8GB of RAM editing high definition uncompressed cineform codec 1080p video from professional video recording equipment.

Yep, any RAM kit will do. I was just making an insane suggestion since the budget has so much overhead anyway.


Jersey,

You can use the stock heat sink and fan just fine. The reason to use an aftermarket unit for this would be to cut down on noise.
     
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Just wanted to thank everyone for the help... I built this one and the coach loves it. The TV tuner is great. Just out of curiosity. When the channels are "scanned".. it finds the local channels, .. is there any way to find more premium channels like NFL Network or ESPN??
    
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Help on that last question someone?
    
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Just wanted to thank everyone for the help... I built this one and the coach loves it. The TV tuner is great. Just out of curiosity. When the channels are "scanned".. it finds the local channels, .. is there any way to find more premium channels like NFL Network or ESPN??

Unfortunately not, premium channels tend to be heavily encrypted by cable providers. You'll probably need to get a tuner card directly from them.
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