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sucks for people who live in areas where A&T has a monopoly on Internet service
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sucks for people who live in areas where A&T has a monopoly on Internet service

shhhh, i think you're confused. AT+T / Comcast / etc would NEVER have a monopoly over internet service. you just have to choose between AT+T and dial up / satellite. mad.gif
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In before they want to try before they buy or they won't buy.
Which is the one and only defense for it. We all know it is a load, but the only way to know for sure is if you could allow it for a time and then look at sales. Even though sales fell fast with napster rise in the late 90's (However, I am not going to pretend that a lot of that was just sales coming down from a surge of the newly introduced CD, but the fall was just a little bit too fast). You literally can see the day when napster went off line since the graph will go back up a bit and then it plummets even faster since it took people a little while to figure something else out. Plus it opened people eyes to things like Internet radio...and the idea piracy via other means.
My guess is if napster came out today with faster and more available broad band it would decimate the market in a few months.

I was quite certain that nearly all studies pointed that music sales have been on the rise, even at the height of napster.
     
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I was quite certain that nearly all studies pointed that music sales have been on the rise, even at the height of napster.

indeed they have. DVD sales have stagnated, but that plateau also coincides with the rise of services like netflix and redbox.
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post #45 of 99
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I was quite certain that nearly all studies pointed that music sales have been on the rise, even at the height of napster.

I haven't seen a single solitary one to say such.

This is one I've found to be interesting
. Shows the sales of albums...both physical and digital (It does NOT include singles though) verses the percentage of households with broad band Internet. It is kind of creepy how they correlate.

This is a good one too...

I like how this one states that digital licensing in 2009 was only $84 million...I am not sure if that covers all of the people like me who have stopped buying music completely thanks to Pandora. I like the graph, heh...you can see the day in the middle where Napster died. Though of course it isn't proven that was the cause and it possibly unrelated. Economies in general were moving up then too.

This is one that centers on the UK, shows that even with 26% increase in digital purchases of singles and albums there was still a 5% overall loss.

All evidence shows the music industry is hurting...well, if you can count a roughly $8 billion dollar business hurting. Just not the $20 billion it used to be. Though I still feel it got that high just because people were buying CDs to replace existing tapes and records. When the mp3 came along people only had to rip their CDs so no one needed to buy anything again.

Though rather than embrace it...the music industry is fighting it. Now we have restrictions getting placed on the Internet like this.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 10/14/12 at 11:28am
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Easy way to justify traffic shaping.
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I haven't seen a single solitary one to say such.
.

Can I counter argue this with personal experience?

I was never into music growing up, All i was ever exposed to was Rap and stuff like the Spice Girls, Thats all that was on on stations around here.. Then I got Napster and I discovered things like Black Sabbath and Megadeth and got into music..

in fact I would never have bought a single album, a single CD or a single album on iTunes had it not been for Napster and WinMX allowing me to be introduced to music that I actually -liked- so the RIAA oddly enough should thank Napster for getting my business at all, because without it i wouldnt have bought any CDs.. Wouldnt have pirated any music either, but hey..

Now theres Spotify and Pandora, So yeah, You dont have much of an excuse anymore, At the time however you pretty much had Radio, That was it... wink.gif God i feel old!
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I predict there will be some kind of lawsuit about this related to privacy, and AT&T will lost chunk of customers

I'm on Time Warner Cable, if they roll out the plan as well, time to switch to RCN

Wondering if Usenet user will affect by it as well tongue.gif
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This is going to be a scenario where, hopefully, enough people drop their service to make an impact on their sales. That is about the only way I can see this going away. Just gotta hope enough people will outright drop their service when this is implemented to show their disgust with even more 'guilty-untill-proven-innocent' scenarios that sit right alongside the US government and their shenanigans.

Regardless of whether or not something is illegal, they have no right to spy on someone just because they're 'watching the bad guys'. This much power is illegal and should not be allowed to exist - especially if there isn't a fair alternative in the market.

It'd be no different if gas prices weren't regulated and all the major companies just decided that today the price is gonna be xx.xx. Leaving citizens with no other choice but either pay or don't drive.
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They'll probably do what my ISP already does. Just shut off any form of torrenting. They don't care if it's legal or illegal. That way they don't have to bother checking.
What ISP is that?
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until VPN traffic becomes "suspicious" as well.

Even china doesn't consider VPN traffic suspicious just yet...
 
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