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well i have to tell you, i had a hell of a time getting fraps to work with bf3 online multiplayer, well, i finally got it to work, on ultra settings i am getting over 60fps. i know this because fraps in bf3 will only show up to 60fps (i don't know why, i'm still trying to figure that one out). when i played single player however it showed unlimited, i was getting between 58-148fps, iuseually hovered around 125-127fps. so to say that the fx-8120 is poor at gaming is not exactly accurate. of course this depends on your system and your graphics card, i have an xfx radeon hd6870 dual fan, and i'm running it on dual monitors that are set to 2048x768. i run in windowed mode so i can move the screen over a few inched so that my aiming recticle in not on the bezel. it is absolutly great, and bf3 is the only game that i play. so to get back to topic, i can't wait for some benches when the fx-8350 comes out, becuase i'm almost certain that if i can do this with my rig, it's going to be a beast. biggrin.gif:D
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True, if gamin performance doesn't suffer like with BD, this is actually going to be a good chip. If the make the 8120 equivalent of PD a lower clocked CPU with the exact same components for about 180, and if gigabyte makes a decent board with a decent chipset for about 130-150, I will probably start recommending that people go with PD instead of intel so that they can dump more money into their GPU.
However, I am not so sure that we will see equal gaming performance out of games lie BF3 with an AMD chip compared to an intel one.

Agreed and it will all depend on the game. I see the 8350 being able to properly push a high end gpu without issue but i still think SLI/Xfire will be bottlenecked substantially unless you have the brass to watercool and run it around 5Ghz but it all comes down to the game.
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I know this is OCN, but besides, Bulldozer/PD have more power consumption than Intel, but does Intel's minor increase in performance (for gaming) really account for ~30C average increase in thermal output?

Intel has a maximum of ~100C whereas AMD has a 'goal' of ~70C

AMD will still achieve 9+GHZ in dual core whereas Intel is ~7Ghz with HT disabled. Chalk it up to 22nm Tri-Gate not being mature, or instructions... Intel is simply more HOT.

The means of condensation to an ice cold overclocker will turn them away from those higher temperatures.
    
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Sure AMD processors will game just fine when coupled with a high end video card but frame for frame they are second to Intel counterparts.
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I know this is OCN, but besides, Bulldozer/PD have more power consumption than Intel, but does Intel's minor increase in performance (for gaming) really account for ~30C average increase in thermal output?
Intel has a maximum of ~100C whereas AMD has a 'goal' of ~70C
AMD will still achieve 9+GHZ in dual core whereas Intel is ~7Ghz with HT disabled. Chalk it up to 22nm Tri-Gate not being mature, or instructions... Intel is simply more HOT.
The means of condensation to an ice cold overclocker will turn them away from those higher temperatures.

First of all higher temps do not equal higher heat output. You can have a small ARM chip at 90C produce next to no heat and then you can have a 990X at 6.5ghz under LN2 at -100C put out 450W worth of heat. In the end the AMD chips we have now put out a lot more heat than intel ones when both are at load. More power consumption pretty much equals more heat in this case.

Secondly, AMD sensors can't be compared with intel ones. 70C on AMD chips isn't the same as 70C on intel chips.

As for extreme overclocking that you refer to, temps actually have pretty much nothing to do with that. The chips are going to be under LN2 anyways. LN2 OCing is actually better on the chips that have higher leakage and thus clock lower on 24/7 cooling solutions. Also intel's current 7ghz would be higher if intel hadn't limited the multi to x63
 
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thanks for the comment on my graphics card, but compared to the 7 series, i wouldn't say that mine is considered high end anymore. xfx radeon hd6870 dual fan , it's all in your setup and settings, oh, and by the way, i only have one card, maybe one day i'll get another for crossfire, WHOO HOOO, I'L BE LOVING THAT:D
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Looks like this might be just a test bed for the things to come, but my 955 is not impressed.

LL

Looks like my CHV is waiting for a steamroller, this appears to be another meh CPU from AMD. The new core enhancements should hopefully get rid of the cache problems, hopefully...
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Agreed and it will all depend on the game. I see the 8350 being able to properly push a high end gpu without issue but i still think SLI/Xfire will be bottlenecked substantially unless you have the brass to watercool and run it around 5Ghz but it all comes down to the game.
There are already examples of the 5800K running at 5ghz+ on air, I would think this could be accomplished even easier on Vishera.
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I know this is OCN, but besides, Bulldozer/PD have more power consumption than Intel, but does Intel's minor increase in performance (for gaming) really account for ~30C average increase in thermal output?
Intel has a maximum of ~100C whereas AMD has a 'goal' of ~70C.

I think it might have to do with heat being concentrated in a smaller area.
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well i have to tell you, i had a hell of a time getting fraps to work with bf3 online multiplayer, well, i finally got it to work, on ultra settings i am getting over 60fps. i know this because fraps in bf3 will only show up to 60fps (i don't know why, i'm still trying to figure that one out). when i played single player however it showed unlimited, i was getting between 58-148fps, iuseually hovered around 125-127fps. so to say that the fx-8120 is poor at gaming is not exactly accurate. of course this depends on your system and your graphics card, i have an xfx radeon hd6870 dual fan, and i'm running it on dual monitors that are set to 2048x768. i run in windowed mode so i can move the screen over a few inched so that my aiming recticle in not on the bezel. it is absolutly great, and bf3 is the only game that i play. so to get back to topic, i can't wait for some benches when the fx-8350 comes out, becuase i'm almost certain that if i can do this with my rig, it's going to be a beast. biggrin.gif:D

I was commenting on ALL BD chips when I said they had gaming issues. And I do know that the difference between AMD and intel is almost non-existent (1-5FPS) in terms of FPS, but there shouldn't be a difference at all. Otherwise BD probably wouldn't have gotten the reputation it has.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/8

If they can turn it around with pile driver where we won't see a problem in gaming performance, and give us what they were originally saying BD was going to be, I think AMD can really turn their S*** around.

I have to say though, what really has me excited about this chip is the price. When BD first hit the market, you could buy an i5 2500K, a hyper 212+/evo, and a asrock extreme 3 gen 3 and get a pretty good OC on it for the same price as the 8150 and a decent board. This time it looks like you might be able to pull off getting an 8350, a cheap air cooler, and a decent board for the price of a 3570K and a decent board. We will see what happens.
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