Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [Various] Alleged League of Legends Cheats Fined 30 Grand
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Various] Alleged League of Legends Cheats Fined 30 Grand - Page 7

post #61 of 92
your analogies are completely terrible. i'm done here, your hate for riot and complete lack of desire for AF to be punished clearly can't be reasoned with.
Satsujin
(10 items)
 
Jisatsu
(17 items)
 
Nikushimi
(8 items)
 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Phenom II X4 970 GeForce GTX 460 Kingston HyperX Hitachi 
CoolingOSKeyboardPower
Xigmatek Windows 7 home premium Logitech G15 Corsair 650w 
MouseAudio
Razer Deathadder Razer Megalodon 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boo... ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb... GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-b... GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-b... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM... Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 ... SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 128GB SATA III MLC ... SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 128GB SATA III MLC ... 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD ... Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) 27" Yamakasi Catleap 2703 LED IPS 2560x1440 WQHD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12... NZXT SWITCH 810 Black Razer Naga 
Audio
Asus Xonar DS 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i3 2350m Nvidia GeForce GT 630m Generic RAM Generic HDD 
OSMouseMouse PadAudio
Windows 7 home premium Razer Naga Razer Travel Mousepad Dolby Advanced Audio 
  hide details  
Reply
Satsujin
(10 items)
 
Jisatsu
(17 items)
 
Nikushimi
(8 items)
 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Phenom II X4 970 GeForce GTX 460 Kingston HyperX Hitachi 
CoolingOSKeyboardPower
Xigmatek Windows 7 home premium Logitech G15 Corsair 650w 
MouseAudio
Razer Deathadder Razer Megalodon 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boo... ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb... GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-b... GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-b... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM... Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 ... SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 128GB SATA III MLC ... SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 128GB SATA III MLC ... 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD ... Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) 27" Yamakasi Catleap 2703 LED IPS 2560x1440 WQHD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12... NZXT SWITCH 810 Black Razer Naga 
Audio
Asus Xonar DS 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i3 2350m Nvidia GeForce GT 630m Generic RAM Generic HDD 
OSMouseMouse PadAudio
Windows 7 home premium Razer Naga Razer Travel Mousepad Dolby Advanced Audio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #62 of 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkling5499 View Post

your analogies are completely terrible. i'm done here, your hate for riot and complete lack of desire for AF to be punished clearly can't be reasoned with.

My only point is that putting your faith in human nature is a mistake in itself that one could commonly be blamed for. I used the analogies to point out situations where that is the case. Also, I never said that I hate Riot. I really don't have any strong feelings toward the company one way or another, and I'm not quite sure how you took my belief that one who puts too much faith in human nature to be hatred for a video game company. Clearly we are on different pages here so I guess we will leave it at that. Good night.
post #63 of 92
It's riot fault, the way the screens and the desk were set up you didn't even had to look over your shoulder. You probably could see that screen in the edge of our view even when you were looking at your own monitor. That way it's very hard to resist to not look at it.

Not saying that cheating in that case is ok, but they shouldn't be punished for it. Riot should just have done a Mea culpa.
Edited by Sisaroth - 10/14/12 at 1:32am
2013
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2700k GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H Sapphire HD 7870 XT Boost G.SKILL 1866 Sniper 2x4 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 840 Basic Crucial MX200 Windows 10 HP IPS 23-inch 1080p 
PowerCaseMouse
Be quiet! BN144 System Power 7 500W NZXT Tempest 210 Zowie FK1 
  hide details  
Reply
2013
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2700k GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H Sapphire HD 7870 XT Boost G.SKILL 1866 Sniper 2x4 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 840 Basic Crucial MX200 Windows 10 HP IPS 23-inch 1080p 
PowerCaseMouse
Be quiet! BN144 System Power 7 500W NZXT Tempest 210 Zowie FK1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #64 of 92
Not Riots fault at all. Its the same as looking at another person paper during a test. They took their eyes off their own screen and were looking at the big monitor knowing full well they were cheating. They had to go out of their way to look at the big monitor.
post #65 of 92
It was kinda dumb of RIOT to provide them the whole map behind their heads.

I still agree with TSMChaox that AFrost should have been DQ'ed from the tournament. 20% is nothing, especially if they win the grand prize. $30k (or $6k each) is nothing compared to them winning $1m
Yuki
(20 items)
 
Illya
(20 items)
 
Neptunia
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500K 5Ghz ASUS P8P67 Pro EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 G.Skill RipJaws X 2133Mhz 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
240GB Corsair Neutron GTX RAID0 Samsung 850 Evo 1TB WD Red 8TB Corsair H115i GTX 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EK Vardar fans Windows 10 Dell u2713hm Apple Cinema Display 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer BlackWidow 2013 CoolerMaster V1000 Corsair 760T Artic White Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
CoolerMaster Swift-RX XL ASUS Xonar DX Schiit Magni Sennheiser HD650 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 Skylake-E X190 Nvidia Titan Volta 32GB 3200Mhz DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 960 Pro 512GB Samsung 850 Evo 1TB 8TB WD Red Corsair H115i GTX 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EK Vardar fans Windows 10 Dell u2713hm Apple Cinema Display 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine CoolerMaster V1000 Corsair 760T Artic White Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
CoolerMaster Swift-RX XL Asus Xonar DX Schiit Magni Sennhesier HD650 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 6600 3.3Ghz Asus Z170M Pro AMD RX460 G.Skill 16GB 2133Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Samsung 850 M.2 256GB Windows 10 Dell S2817Q 4K Ducky Shine 3 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
CoolerMaster Vanguard 450W BitFenix Phenom Logitech G700S CoolerMaster Swift-RX 
  hide details  
Reply
Yuki
(20 items)
 
Illya
(20 items)
 
Neptunia
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500K 5Ghz ASUS P8P67 Pro EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 G.Skill RipJaws X 2133Mhz 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
240GB Corsair Neutron GTX RAID0 Samsung 850 Evo 1TB WD Red 8TB Corsair H115i GTX 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EK Vardar fans Windows 10 Dell u2713hm Apple Cinema Display 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer BlackWidow 2013 CoolerMaster V1000 Corsair 760T Artic White Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
CoolerMaster Swift-RX XL ASUS Xonar DX Schiit Magni Sennheiser HD650 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 Skylake-E X190 Nvidia Titan Volta 32GB 3200Mhz DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 960 Pro 512GB Samsung 850 Evo 1TB 8TB WD Red Corsair H115i GTX 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EK Vardar fans Windows 10 Dell u2713hm Apple Cinema Display 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine CoolerMaster V1000 Corsair 760T Artic White Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
CoolerMaster Swift-RX XL Asus Xonar DX Schiit Magni Sennhesier HD650 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 6600 3.3Ghz Asus Z170M Pro AMD RX460 G.Skill 16GB 2133Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Samsung 850 M.2 256GB Windows 10 Dell S2817Q 4K Ducky Shine 3 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
CoolerMaster Vanguard 450W BitFenix Phenom Logitech G700S CoolerMaster Swift-RX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #66 of 92
It's only obvious that if you're having a competition among and against many players, one is going to be tempted to find an easy win when the answers are right above his head. Yes, what they did was cheating. so Riot is not totally at fault; however, Riot should have prepared better to prevent things like this from happening. Since the competition wasn't prepared well, the punishment should have been less.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post

Not Riots fault at all. Its the same as looking at another person paper during a test...

If that was the case, then teachers wouldn't have students sit far away from each other and space out the desks for important exams, such as the SAT exam that high school students take in the USA. Yes, the players were cheating; however, Riot still has some fault in the incident because they did little to avoid this problem from happening.
GAMING-PC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Kingston HyperX blu 8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Green 1 TB @ 5400 RPM DVD-RW ATA Device MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 Asus VE198/208 LED Monitor  
PowerCaseAudio
Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700W Cooler Master HAF912 Realtek High Definition Audio 
  hide details  
Reply
GAMING-PC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Kingston HyperX blu 8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Green 1 TB @ 5400 RPM DVD-RW ATA Device MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 Asus VE198/208 LED Monitor  
PowerCaseAudio
Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 700W Cooler Master HAF912 Realtek High Definition Audio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #67 of 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike395 View Post

My only point is that putting your faith in human nature is a mistake in itself that one could commonly be blamed for. I used the analogies to point out situations where that is the case. Also, I never said that I hate Riot. I really don't have any strong feelings toward the company one way or another, and I'm not quite sure how you took my belief that one who puts too much faith in human nature to be hatred for a video game company. Clearly we are on different pages here so I guess we will leave it at that. Good night.

Human nature can be governed by character. Sure we all make mistakes some times. The player turning to look was clearly a mistake. One born out of character. The board was behind them. You clearly have to make a concerted effort, visable to all, to turn around to see it; hence...cheating.

Did Riot set this up perfectly? Of course they didn't; but to lay no personal responsibility at the foot of the actor is what some of us just can't understand.
Red Obsidian
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4770K Asus Maximus VI Extreme Galaxy GTX 680 2GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 4x8 32GB DDR3 CMY3... 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB SSD  Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB Koolance CPU-370 Koolance PMP-450 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance HX-CU1320V 4x120 Copper Radiator Koolance HX-CU1020V 3x120 Copper Radiator Koolance HX-CU720V 2x120 Copper Radiator Koolance CTR-CD1224 12/24V Pump and Fan Controller 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair AF120 High Performance Fans Windows 7 x64 Professional Dell S2409W Seasonic Platinum-1000  
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Corsair Obsidian 900D Logitech G700 Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD  Logitech Z5500 THX 5.1 Surround System 
  hide details  
Reply
Red Obsidian
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4770K Asus Maximus VI Extreme Galaxy GTX 680 2GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 4x8 32GB DDR3 CMY3... 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB SSD  Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB Koolance CPU-370 Koolance PMP-450 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance HX-CU1320V 4x120 Copper Radiator Koolance HX-CU1020V 3x120 Copper Radiator Koolance HX-CU720V 2x120 Copper Radiator Koolance CTR-CD1224 12/24V Pump and Fan Controller 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair AF120 High Performance Fans Windows 7 x64 Professional Dell S2409W Seasonic Platinum-1000  
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Corsair Obsidian 900D Logitech G700 Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD  Logitech Z5500 THX 5.1 Surround System 
  hide details  
Reply
post #68 of 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyrical View Post

If that was the case, then teachers wouldn't have students sit far away from each other and space out the desks for important exams, such as the SAT exam that high school students take in the USA. Yes, the players were cheating; however, Riot still has some fault in the incident because they did little to avoid this problem from happening.

Riot is not at fault period. Riot did not make them turn their heads around to cheat. These individuals made the choice on their own to cheat and the blame rests 100% on their own shoulders. Shifting blame is just trying to excuse what they did. They were warned, and they did it anyway. If it was me I would DQ them from any prize money and blacklist them from any further LOL tourneys.
post #69 of 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by willis888 View Post

Greedy event organizers, feeling buyer's remorse, find a way to steal back tournament prizes.
Looking around you isn't cheating in any way, shape, or form. It's just good situational awareness.
If glancing over your shoulder provides an advantage, you'd better be glancing over your shoulder all the dang time. Or you're going to lose. Case in point.
A more reasonable solution would be for the venue to pay the losing teams $30,000 as an apology for inadequate tournament infrastructure.

wat. You never played this game obviously. You are not allowed to look at that screen and if they did that's because they are low people with no principles whatsoever. Only someone like you would think it's acceptable in order to win. If you need to cheat to win then i don't know why the hell they would go there.
1155 POWER
(16 items)
 
AMD Heater
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 2500k 4,6Ghz Asus Maximus IV Extreme Palit GTX 560 Ti Sonic Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti Overclocked 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
8GB G.Skill Sniper 1886MHz Seagate 500GB and Samsung 500GB Samsung 840 SSD Corsair H50 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit BenQ XL2411Z Steelseries Merc Stealth Nox Apex 800w 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Lanboy Air Logitech G400s Steelseries Qck Mass 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 955 BE Asus Crosshair Formula II nVidia GTX 260 Core 216 55nm Kingston DDR2 4GB 800Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital 500GB Some cheap thing (at least it's black) Modded AMD Stock Cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Some Samsung. Corsair CX600 NZXT Tempest A4Tech X7 
Mouse Pad
Bundled Black Ops Mousepad lol 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4210H MSI MS-16GF GTX 850M 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
WDC WD5000 HL-DT-ST DVDRAN GTA0N Windows 8.1 by Steelseries 
Audio
Dynaudio 
  hide details  
Reply
1155 POWER
(16 items)
 
AMD Heater
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 2500k 4,6Ghz Asus Maximus IV Extreme Palit GTX 560 Ti Sonic Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti Overclocked 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
8GB G.Skill Sniper 1886MHz Seagate 500GB and Samsung 500GB Samsung 840 SSD Corsair H50 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit BenQ XL2411Z Steelseries Merc Stealth Nox Apex 800w 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Lanboy Air Logitech G400s Steelseries Qck Mass 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 955 BE Asus Crosshair Formula II nVidia GTX 260 Core 216 55nm Kingston DDR2 4GB 800Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital 500GB Some cheap thing (at least it's black) Modded AMD Stock Cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Some Samsung. Corsair CX600 NZXT Tempest A4Tech X7 
Mouse Pad
Bundled Black Ops Mousepad lol 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4210H MSI MS-16GF GTX 850M 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
WDC WD5000 HL-DT-ST DVDRAN GTA0N Windows 8.1 by Steelseries 
Audio
Dynaudio 
  hide details  
Reply
post #70 of 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike395 View Post

Ok, so if I make my password "password" and get hacked, there's no fault placed on me for this either?

The hacker is to blame for hacking. While you made it easier (stupidity or ignorance on your part), you're not at fault for being the victim of a crime.

In this case, the same holds true. The cheaters cheated; Riot's setup made it easier, but the act of cheating required conscious and obvious effort. Regardless of how you (general you) perceive Riot's setup of the tournament, consider the above hacker example. Being dumb might absolve an insurer from taking care of you, but it does not remove blame from the people who broke the rules. As applied to this tournament, if nobody had cheated then Riot would not have been blamed. As cheating DID happen, Riot is blamed... as much as, or more than the cheaters (the ones who broke the rules), evidently.

We have responsibility of our own actions - blame the guys broke the rules. Correct the circumstances that permitted it to happen as easily as it did, but place blame where it belongs.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus ROG Maximus V Gene Reference EVGA GTX 680 (1306 / 7204) Reference EVGA GTX 680 SC (1280 / 7160) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16GB Samsung 'Green' 1600 DDR3 (MV-3V4G3D/US) Samsung 830 256GB Noctua U12P SE2 w/ AP14s P-P Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Hannspree 23" SL231 LED Logitech G710+ Seasonic SS-860XP2 Platinum Cardboard box & motherboard tray 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Dying Razer Death Adder Desktop Schiit Magni + Optical Modi Swan M50W 
AudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 600 Samson Meteor Mic w/ pop filter 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus ROG Maximus V Gene Reference EVGA GTX 680 (1306 / 7204) Reference EVGA GTX 680 SC (1280 / 7160) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16GB Samsung 'Green' 1600 DDR3 (MV-3V4G3D/US) Samsung 830 256GB Noctua U12P SE2 w/ AP14s P-P Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Hannspree 23" SL231 LED Logitech G710+ Seasonic SS-860XP2 Platinum Cardboard box & motherboard tray 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Dying Razer Death Adder Desktop Schiit Magni + Optical Modi Swan M50W 
AudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 600 Samson Meteor Mic w/ pop filter 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Game News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [Various] Alleged League of Legends Cheats Fined 30 Grand