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Fail Nvidia.... Fail...
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Fail Nvidia.... Fail...

Please expand on this.

How did NVIDIA fail?
post #103 of 236
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Fail Nvidia.... Fail...

People need to stop living in the 90s thinking that every generation is going to be nearly double the performance of the last. 15% is good, the GTX 680 hasn't even been out that long. The thing also probably uses less power than the GTX 680. If NVIDIA failed, all companies have failed.
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Good news for those of us that own 480/580/680. No real need to upgrade. I guess nvidia can't always pull something like the jump from the 7900 series to the 8800 series.

Explain please?

I'll sell my 680 and get a 780 on the day it comes out, and end up spending $100-$150 to upgrade. Then in 1 1/2 years, repeat for the GTX 880. Makes more sense than waiting until the 680 can't max games, and end up spending $500 on a new GPU while getting almost nothing back from my old GPU . Staying top of the line isn't nearly expensive as some people make it out to be, assuming you sell your old hardware before the prices drop. Infact, according to my math it is cheaper than keeping the same GPU for a few years.
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It's not like we need a 780 that's 2x as fast as the 680.
The 680/7970 are already fast enough to run any game out there at "retina" (1440 and 1600p) resolutions.
So why bother?

If everyone shared this logic, we'd still be in the stone age...

There are well known quotes from people in the 1800s using the same logic. Look how far we've come since then. Any type of progress is good, even if only a small chunk of the population actually needs it right now.
Edited by Murlocke - 10/14/12 at 5:43pm
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Performance increase is less and wait between each generation is longer. Intel, AMD, and Nvidia have less performance increase with each generation release lately.

GTX 285 -> GTX 480 was 2 times faster
4870 -> 5870 was 2 times faster

Now,

GTX 480 -> GTX 580 -> GTX 680 is marginally faster
5870 -> 6970 is marginally faster
2500k -> 3570k is marginally faster
Phenom II -> Bulldozer is marginally faster
Edited by Riou - 10/14/12 at 5:26pm
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Performance increase is less and wait between each generation is longer. Intel, AMD, and Nvidia have less performance increase with each generation release lately.

GTX 285 -> GTX 480 was 2 times faster
4870 -> 5870 was 2 times faster

Now,

GTX 480 -> GTX 580 -> GTX 680 is marginally faster
5870 -> 6970 is marginally faster
2500k -> 3570k is marginally faster
Phenom II -> Bulldozer is marginally faster

not to mention almost new generation is full of trade offs instead of improving on most everything like it used to be. ah well, that's just the way it is these days.
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Let's see a single GPU run a game at 7680x1440 at 240hz 3D (120hz per eye), with everything maxed out. Let's see any current GPU run a game at 60fps with pure raytracing only. Neither of those are even close right now, technology has a LONG way to go.
See, the whole "we don't need faster cards" argument is seeded in ignorance. If it's too fast, you can always downclock and undervolt it and capitalize on power savings. There's also all kinds of tech out there, as you've pointed out, that we can't render in real time.

However, there is a cable bandwidth wall. I don't believe there's a signal interface that can provide 2560x1440 @120Hz, for example.
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I for one am happy about this, lol. Means I am just going to skip the 700 series, lol.
 
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See, the whole "we don't need faster cards" argument is seeded in ignorance. If it's too fast, you can always downclock and undervolt it and capitalize on power savings. There's also all kinds of tech out there, as you've pointed out, that we can't render in real time.
However, there is a cable bandwidth wall. I don't believe there's a signal interface that can provide 2560x1440 @120Hz, for example.

Displayport 1.2 can, I'm pretty sure.
http://www.dvhardware.net/article40327.html

(Unless I'm misunderstanding your post)
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Well if true this is disappointing. We know NVIDIA can do better (GK110), but they're holding back on us. I guess AMD isn't pushing them hard enough.

Might just wait for Maxwell the way things are going at the moment.
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Performance increase is less and wait between each generation is longer. Intel, AMD, and Nvidia have less performance increase with each generation release lately.
GTX 285 -> GTX 480 was 2 times faster
4870 -> 5870 was 2 times faster
Now,
GTX 480 -> GTX 580 -> GTX 680 is marginally faster
5870 -> 6970 is marginally faster
2500k -> 3570k is marginally faster
Phenom II -> Bulldozer is marginally faster

I think the software lagging so far behind has caused a slow down in hardware. And I fully blame Microsoft and Sony on that one (because games are STILL made in DX9 on their ancient systems). And then there's the average Joe who never needed anything faster than an E6600.

Edit : In this sense it's like a closed loop : Outdated hardware doesn't allow for software advancements, thus further hardware advancements aren't really necessary. Again, thanks on that one MS and Sony. mad.gif
Edited by Creator - 10/14/12 at 6:24pm
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