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I think people were look for 2X gtx 580 and that would have been possible if all were well and dandy in chip production.
They're supposed to be by the end of the year.

At any rate, I just don't see this card not appearing on the market someday. What is Nvidia going to do with the chips that don't meet Quadro/Tesla qualification? Throw them away? Or use them in their consumer cards as always? Even if GK114 is used for the new 780, I'd be on the lookout for a GK110 based GPU later.
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Everyone knew that GK110 was never going into a production Geforce, the profit just is not there for a die so large.
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Everyone knew that GK110 was never going into a production Geforce, the profit just is not there for a die so large.

Everyone knew top GK110 chips wouldn't make it into geforce cards. But what do you suggest NV should do with dies that are too leaky for teslas or quadros? According to the "no GK110 for geforce" rumors they're just supposed to trash them?
 
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Tens and tens of thousands of GK110s isn't mass producing I guess...
I still doubt that we're just going to get just a refreshed GK104, If we do and NV can match AMD with that chip then we've had one extremely lousy two generations. It would just make perfect sense to use GK110 instead of developing something new...

Isn't the GK110 designed solely for GPGPU and professional applications? I think it's easy to see that such a part (which we know NOTHING about right now) would be highly inefficient for desktop computers. I would love to see a GK110 part but after reading this news I highly doubt it. Nvidia already stated they are separating their gaming and professional lines - GK110 is designed for professional use and I presume is highly inefficient, and would be hot and loud on the desktop. (it isn't hard to deduct this based on specs).

Also, I saw the news of GK110 parts shipping but why do we know nothing about it? No benchmarks, no information, nothing? All of the GPGPU and shaders on the GK110, if it does exist, would be a tremendous cost of inefficiency, wouldn't it? I don't see why nvidia would reverse course again and offer GPGPU in a gaming GPU.
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Eyefinity/nvsurround using 1440p monitors beg to differ. Also, eyefinity/nvsurround at 1080p 120 Hz.
Heck, there are some games (don't remember any off the top of my head) that requires at least 2 cards to max out eyefinity at 1080p at 60 Hz.
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Most games struggle to keep 60FPS at 1080P with surround/eyefinity with two GPUs. One GPU per screen is needed.

Get two cards for eyefinity?
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Isn't the GK110 designed solely for GPGPU and professional applications? I think it's easy to see that such a part (which we know NOTHING about right now) would be highly inefficient for desktop computers.

GF100 was designed as much for GPGPU as GK110 would be. Doesn't stop them from using them as gaming GPUs as well, obviously it will be a bit less efficient but most of the stuff added for compute reasons will also be useful for gaming. Basically GK110 is just a bunch of more of everything. It's not that fundamentally different from GK104, it's just bigger with some extra features to get DP up.

See GF104 vs. GF100.
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I would love to see a GK110 part but after reading this news I highly doubt it. Nvidia already stated they are separating their gaming and professional lines - GK110 is designed for professional use and I presume is highly inefficient, and would be hot and loud on the desktop.

Where did they state this and what do they mean by it? They have already done it by hardware limiting compute on geforce parts. They don't really need to do more.

Also it wouldn't likely be more inefficient, hot and loud as the GF110. 580s weren't that bad. There's also always the need for better performing parts on the desktop. What do you suggest they should use to compete with AMD? Does it make sense to design a whole new chip just for gaming on top of GK104? Most likely not. And again, NV reps have said GK110 could make an appearance if AMD's launch requires it.
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(it isn't hard to deduct this based on specs).
Also, I saw the news of GK110 parts shipping but why do we know nothing about it? No benchmarks, no information, nothing?

http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/kepler/NVIDIA-Kepler-GK110-Architecture-Whitepaper.pdf

As for why no gaming info yet, that's most likely because teslas are given priority. NV most likely hasn't shipped out any GK110 geforce boards, no matter how early in testing stages they were. Tesla boards on the other hand have started shipping. But since they're completely incompatible with normal gaming and the security is so tight it's obvious those are of no use to us.
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All of the GPGPU and shaders on the GK110, if it does exist, would be a tremendous cost of inefficiency, wouldn't it? I don't see why nvidia would reverse course again and offer GPGPU in a gaming GPU.

It's not reversing course, it's being logical and making a profit from the parts you can't sell otherwise. Just like intel is selling SB-EP dies with 2 cores disabled as SB-E. Their top of the line 500$-1000$ CPUs. Crippled server chips.
 
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The whole thing with nvidia banning unlocked voltage is false.
Manfactureres can have a unlocked voltage, but Nvidia will not warranty the chips to them
Edited by Juggalo23451 - 10/14/12 at 9:09am
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Another mid-range card? biggrin.gif.

hahaha XD.

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This actually makes me happy after getting SLI GTX 680's I was pretty mad that the specs of GK100 were supposed to be GTX 690 levels. Now I can actually enjoy these beasts
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This topic is full of AMD Fanboys its kinda sad.

Its like they OWN the company and trying to diss or make fun of people who were looking for 780

No offense AMD fanboys, but try to argue about ATI cards when they come up with Physx, Adaptive Vsync, 3Dvision and FXAA. When you do not give these features of course your product will cost less.

Back on topic. I never expected 780 to be a 690 to be honest.
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