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Hmm, well PhysX is nice in like the two games that utilize it. Adaptive VSYNC is a gimmick and adds lag just like regular VSYNC. 3d in general is a dying fad and FXAA is nothing special. As far as the gtx 780 goes, I was never convinced that it would utilize gk110. Movies is not in the habit of giving away performance...

Yes but those are FOR you. I totally disagree with eevrything you say

Adaptive VSYNC is NOT a gimmick. Not at all. Beats regular vsync and tripple buffer day and night
3D is not a dying thing. It just needs to be implemented better and game developers need to take advantage of it more.
FXAA is VERY useful in 3Dvision gaming and sometimes in regular games. It is NOT as good as MSAA of course but it is better than nothing.
Phsyx support way more than 2 games.

Just because you or someone does not prefer it, it doesnt make these features useless in general. No offense. Useless for you maybe but extremely useful for many people who use these features regularly.

I prefer NVIDIA for these features. They just do not give you fps but they give you technology. That's not being a fanboy. When ATI does FXAA, Adaptive VSYNC, 3Dvision or Phsyx better than Nvidia, be sure I will switch to ATI.

Again there are people who doesn't prefer those technologies and just want the beef, a.k.a more FPS with less cost so for them the ATI might be a smart purchase, but this never makes the Nvidia technology garbage.
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Please do not call each other fanboys or other names. It creates more bickering.
Edited by Riou - 10/14/12 at 11:28am
post #83 of 236
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Adaptive Vsync is not crap
3Dvision is way superior than tridef
Many people purchase secondary Nvidia GPUs to enable Phsyx with their games although they have ATI GPUs
FXAA is not universal with ATI. It is only there if the game supports it. You need to use an injector.
And more importantly if you have an idea, tell it but do not insult people. You have no right to call someone retarded.
Edit : I am not going to argue on this thread anymore not to get out of the topic. We can debate this in another thread if you wish.

3D is a gimmick. If you really want it, it is available on both platforms. To take advantage of nvidia's "superiority" means investing a lot of money into glasses and (absolutely terrible, overpriced) licensed monitors. Thanks, but no thanks.

Adaptive Vsync fails at both removing tearing and removing vsync related performance hits. Worst of both worlds. The only time it makes any sense to use it is if you are so lazy that you can't monitor your FPS and pick for yourself whether vsync is a good choice for any given game you may have.

Physx does not offer anything that can't be done without it. It doesn't open doors, it closes them. The sooner people stop buying into this stupid proprietary API, the sooner you will see games taking advantage of vastly superior platform independent open solutions.

Universal FXAA does nothing other than blur up your desktop, applications, videos, photos, and games that don't need it. If you actually need it for a game, injecting it is just as easy (if not sometimes easier) as enabling it independently in nvidia control panel.

Try again.
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3D is a gimmick. If you really want it, it is available on both platforms. To take advantage of nvidia's "superiority" means investing a lot of money into glasses and (absolutely terrible, overpriced) licensed monitors. Thanks, but no thanks.
Adaptive Vsync gets fails at both removing tearing and removing vsync related performance hits. Worst of both worlds. The only time it makes any sense to use it is if you are so lazy that you can't monitor your FOS and pick for yourself whether vsync is a good choice for any given game you may have.
Physx does not offer anything that can't be done without it. It doesn't open doors, it closes them. The sooner people stop buying into this stupid proprietary API, the sooner you will see games taking advantage of vastly superior platform independent open solutions.
Universal FXAA does nothing other than blur up your desktop, applications, videos, and games that don't need it. If you actually need it for a game, injecting it is just as easy (if not sometimes easier) as enabling it independently in nvidia control panel.
Try again.

3D is not a gimmick at all. 3Dvision technology is far better than tridef technology. I tried both and I can say it clearly. When 3D is implemented nicely by the developer, 3Dvision blows away tridef technology hands down. Again just because you do not want to spend the extra money because for you its a gimmick, it does not mean that the technology is bad. There are enthusiasts for it and there are not. Its that simple. So no need to bash it. Just because you are not using it, its not garbage.

Adaptive Vsync does not remove tearing 100% i agree, but i dont get the input lag that Vsync gives me. Adaptive Vsync so far has been a very smooth experience for me. Smoother than Vsync and Tripple Buffering. I agree i get few tearings now and there but thats it. I can not stand vsync off btw.

Physx gives JOY to the games. It does for me. I played Mafia, Alice, Batman Series lately and the impact of Physx visually is outstanding. It is an EYE candy and when a person cares about graphics why woulndnt he use Phyx?

You do not enable universal FXAA. You can enable it for each game via Nvidia Control Panel. When gaming in 3Dvision i took advantage of FXAA a lot. It gave me more performance. Or when I wanted stable 120hz with my previous monitor FXAA helpmed me in most (not all) games out thjere. Nvidia presents FXAA natively, why would someone bother with injections. Yes here on OCN thats like a thing that can be done in a second but most end user wouldnt be able to do it that easily. Not everyone is advanced like us in computers.

I didn't have to try. I responded back like a human being so maybe people could respond without insults or quotes like TRY AGAIN.

Edit : Just because a person does not like certain technology, it doesnt mean that the technology is garbage. Noone can globally certify that a technology is garbage and unneeded.
Edited by iARDAs - 10/14/12 at 11:34am
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3D is not a gimmick at all. 3Dvision technology is far better than tridef technology. I tried both and I can say it clearly. When 3D is implemented nicely by the developer, 3Dvision blows away tridef technology hands down. Again just because you do not want to spend the extra money because for you its a gimmick, it does not mean that the technology is bad. There are enthusiasts for it and there are not. Its that simple. So no need to bash it. Just because you are not using it, its not garbage.
Adaptive Vsync does not remove tearing 100% i agree, but i dont get the input lag that Vsync gives me. Adaptive Vsync so far has been a very smooth experience for me. Smoother than Vsync and Tripple Buffering. I agree i get few tearings now and there but thats it. I can not stand vsync off btw.
Physx gives JOY to the games. It does for me. I played Mafia, Alice, Batman Series lately and the impact of Physx visually is outstanding. It is an EYE candy and when a person cares about graphics why woulndnt he use Phyx?
You do not enable universal FXAA. You can enable it for each game via Nvidia Control Panel. When gaming in 3Dvision i took advantage of FXAA a lot. It gave me more performance. Or when I wanted stable 120hz with my previous monitor FXAA helpmed me in most (not all) games out thjere. Nvidia presents FXAA natively, why would someone bother with injections. Yes here on OCN thats like a thing that can be done in a second but most end user wouldnt be able to do it that easily. Not everyone is advanced like us in computers.
I didn't have to try. I responded back like a human being so maybe people could respond without insults or quotes like TRY AGAIN.
Edit : Just because a person does not like certain technology, it doesnt mean that the technology is garbage. Noone can globally certify that a technology is garbage and unneeded.

I guess you can't read. Let's try again.

everything you can do with an nvidia card can be done just as well with an amd card. the only difference is nvidia's versions are all closed proprietary stagnant api's which only serve to fragment user bases and poison the gaming community. I'm not saying you can't do it with nvidia, I'm saying there is not reason to use their poisonous methods.

That easy enough for you?
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I guess you can't read. Let's try again.
everything you can do with an nvidia card can be done just as well with an amd card. the only difference is nvidia's versions are all closed proprietary stagnant api's which only serve to fragment user bases and poison the gaming community. I'm not saying you can't do it with nvidia, I'm saying there is not reason to use their poisonous methods.
That easy enough for you?

IT can not be done JUST AS WELL.

Tridef is not as good as 3Dvision
Adaptive Vsync?
FXAA yes maybe just that
Phsyx? I read in OCN so many times that people are asking how can they run Phsyx with their Ati GPUs. Some fail, some succeed.

I can read very well thank you very much. And again. Nvidia is superior to ATI when it comes to above.

But if a person just cares about Frames Per Second, and that's it, than yeah for these people ATI would be a better choice cost effectively.

Again you responded me 3 times

First one you called me if i was retarded
2nd one you said TRY AGAIN
3rd time you said thats easy enough for you?

as if repeateadly you are trying to insult me. Interesting.
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This topic is full of AMD Fanboys its kinda sad.
Its like they OWN the company and trying to diss or make fun of people who were looking for 780
No offense AMD fanboys, but try to argue about ATI cards when they come up with Physx, Adaptive Vsync, 3Dvision and FXAA. When you do not give these features of course your product will cost less.
No, it isn't. Even the folk that are typically biased towards AMD in this thread are behaving well. Unless there were some posts that were cleaned up, I really have no idea what you're going on about.

As far as 3D, FXAA and Adaptive V-Sync goes, it's all subjective. Stop trying to pass off your opinions as fact.

You need to understand the difference between being an AMD fanboy and being anti-Nvidia. They are wholly separate.
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You keep whining that people are hurling insults at you yet you opened up this argument by calling out "AMD fanboys". Nvidia's gimmicks do not justify their lower price/performance ratio compared to AMD's current lineup. The 680 doesn't do anything that the 7970 can't do better for less. The 7950 is the best performance bargain on the market today. Gimmicky vsync and barely utilized proprietary api's don't change that...
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IT can not be done JUST AS WELL.
Tridef is not as good as 3Dvision
Adaptive Vsync?
FXAA yes maybe just that
Phsyx? I read in OCN so many times that people are asking how can they run Phsyx with their Ati GPUs. Some fail, some succeed.
I can read very well thank you very much. And again. Nvidia is superior to ATI when it comes to above.
But if a person just cares about Frames Per Second, and that's it, than yeah for these people ATI would be a better choice cost effectively.
Again you responded me 3 times
First one you called me if i was retarded
2nd one you said TRY AGAIN
3rd time you said thats easy enough for you?
as if repeateadly you are trying to insult me. Interesting.

What part of adaptive vsync doesn't really work, and everything else is just a proprietary version of an open source API, do you not understand?
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You keep whining that people are hurling insults at you yet you opened up this argument by calling out "AMD fanboys". Nvidia's gimmicks do not justify their lower price/performance ratio compared to AMD's current lineup. The 680 doesn't do anything that the 7970 can't do better for less. The 7950 is the best performance bargain on the market today. Gimmicky vsync and barely utilized proprietary api's don't change that...

No I didnt call AMD fanboys to everyone. I said it to people who were happy and making fun that 780 would not be as great as predicted here in OCN. And all of them had an ATI GPU. I did not call every ati user a fanboy lets get that straight.

Again they are GIMMICKS FOR YOU. Not for many people out there.

680 does Adaptive Vsync, Physx, FXAA and 3Dvision better than 7970 no offence.

For me 670 is the best performance bargain because you get again i repeate, adaptive Vsync, FXAA, 3Dvision and Phsyx. With a 7950 you can not. But if a person cares about Frames per Second than yeah 7950 would be a better choice.

Last time. These technologies are not gimmicks universally. For you maybe but not universally.
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