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Hello everybody. I've read these forums for quite some time, and now I've finally made an account so I can hopefully get some help.

I just bought parts for a gaming rig, and it all came out very nicely. (parts listed below). Of course, I wanted to run Crysis at the highest settings, because I figured with the hardware I just invested in, it just HAD to be possible. I mean, come on. This game is from 2007... mad.gif

Here are all of the parts I bought:

- COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced Case
- GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
- ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 Video Card
- CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W Power Supply
- AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 RAM
- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
- LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM SATA 12X Blu-ray Burner

I also put an Intel 120GB SSD, and a 2TB hard drive in there.

Pretty good hardware right? Well, Crysis doesn't seem to agree with me. rolleyes.gif I have the Crysis Special Edition DVD, and I also have it purchased on Origin. First I installed the Origin version, and set the resolution to 1080p, and set all of the settings to "Very High" with no AA enabled. The game ran beautifully with 60FPS until it got VERY spotty. Once the sun came up, I would have sudden frame rate drops like no other. I would have 60FPS, then it'd dip to around 20-25, then go back up to 60 again. It was so annoying that I just quit the game. I've tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions of the game. No difference.
I even tried letting the game "Optimize" the settings for my system, and it set the settings to "High." Still get framerate problems.
Then I uninstalled the Origin version, and installed the Special Edition DVD version, which I like because there's no online activation or installation limit (No SecuRom). I ran the game, and things went to Hell...

It would run at 60FPS again, and I'd STILL get the frame dips, and I'd get random graphical glitches, and game freezes. It'd get to the point where I'd have to shut down the PC manually to get out of the frozen garbled mess!

So I have two versions of this game, and both give me framerate issues on hardware that I strongly believe should be able to handle a game like this. There must be something that I'm just not getting.
I've tried overclocking my processor to 4.0GHz, and it's not fixing this issue. I've tried overclocking my GPU in the ASUS GPU tweak utility, and it still didn't fix it.

I don't know what to do! Could it be because of a system bottleneck? Could it be because my GPU and CPU are AMD?

If you need any other information, I'd be more than happy to supply it. I really hope that somebody can help me, because I'm ripping my hair out trying to play a freakin' computer game from almost six years ago... Thank you!
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Hello everybody. I've read these forums for quite some time, and now I've finally made an account so I can hopefully get some help.
I just bought parts for a gaming rig, and it all came out very nicely. (parts listed below). Of course, I wanted to run Crysis at the highest settings, because I figured with the hardware I just invested in, it just HAD to be possible. I mean, come on. This game is from 2007... mad.gif
Here are all of the parts I bought:
- COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced Case
- GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
- ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 Video Card
- CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W Power Supply
- AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 RAM
- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
- LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM SATA 12X Blu-ray Burner
I also put an Intel 120GB SSD, and a 2TB hard drive in there.
Pretty good hardware right? Well, Crysis doesn't seem to agree with me. rolleyes.gif I have the Crysis Special Edition DVD, and I also have it purchased on Origin. First I installed the Origin version, and set the resolution to 1080p, and set all of the settings to "Very High" with no AA enabled. The game ran beautifully with 60FPS until it got VERY spotty. Once the sun came up, I would have sudden frame rate drops like no other. I would have 60FPS, then it'd dip to around 20-25, then go back up to 60 again. It was so annoying that I just quit the game. I've tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions of the game. No difference.
I even tried letting the game "Optimize" the settings for my system, and it set the settings to "High." Still get framerate problems.
Then I uninstalled the Origin version, and installed the Special Edition DVD version, which I like because there's no online activation or installation limit (No SecuRom). I ran the game, and things went to Hell...
It would run at 60FPS again, and I'd STILL get the frame dips, and I'd get random graphical glitches, and game freezes. It'd get to the point where I'd have to shut down the PC manually to get out of the frozen garbled mess!
So I have two versions of this game, and both give me framerate issues on hardware that I strongly believe should be able to handle a game like this. There must be something that I'm just not getting.
I've tried overclocking my processor to 4.0GHz, and it's not fixing this issue. I've tried overclocking my GPU in the ASUS GPU tweak utility, and it still didn't fix it.
I don't know what to do! Could it be because of a system bottleneck? Could it be because my GPU and CPU are AMD?
If you need any other information, I'd be more than happy to supply it. I really hope that somebody can help me, because I'm ripping my hair out trying to play a freakin' computer game from almost six years ago... Thank you!

Sound's like a bad GPU OC, or overheating of the GPU.
    
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So crysis is the only game giving you issues? Have you tried running the crysis cpu/gpu benchmarks?

Crysis is a very unoptimized game but you should not have trouble with your hardware.
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post #4 of 25
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Sound's like a bad GPU OC, or overheating of the GPU.
I've set the GPU and CPU clocks back to stock/default again just to be sure. I'll test it again in a minute, and update this post.

Update: The glitches would occur after playing the game for a little while, so I can't say for sure on that. But so far no glitches occured, which is nice. But the framerate dips are still there.
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So crysis is the only game giving you issues? Have you tried running the crysis cpu/gpu benchmarks?
Crysis is a very unoptimized game but you should not have trouble with your hardware.

I have not tried Crysis CPU/GPU benchmarks. Are they built into the game? Or are you saying to use a benchmarking utility?

Also, yes, Crysis is the only game giving me trouble. I have Battlefield 3 and Skyrim maxed out locked at 60FPS all the time. Also I get 30-40FPS on The Witcher 2 with everything maxed out except for 'ubersampling.'
Edited by TSBroich - 10/14/12 at 7:42pm
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I couldn't figure out how to get the Crysis benchmark working with the Steam version of the game.

But looking at some benchmarks, it doesn't really look to me like you'll be able to run it at a solid 60FPS unless you turn a couple of the heavy-hitters down a couple notches. Crysis still brings modern pc's to their knees.

However, I will say this (and you won't like it). I had two Radeon cards a couple years ago when I built a different gaming rig, and I ran into a couple issues with Crysis. Switched to Nvidia, issues were gone, and I haven't looked back since. But that could've been an isolated incident and many people might be able to play Crysis just fine with Radeon cards.

Also, like Furrby said, test with other games and see how it works. One more thing -- I would not think that overclocking your GPU would be the answer to your problem. If anything, the opposite probably would (downclocking). If it doesn't run right at factory settings, something is wrong and I highly doubt overclocking would fix it, though I'm no expert.

Edit: How low are your framerate dips? I have a GTX 690 and I usually get around 80-90 FPS average with everything maxed on Crysis, but occasionally it will dip down all the way to 60 some FPS. So framerate dips are entirely normal, but you should be able to reproduce them. I.e - looking at certain areas will decrease your framerate, and looking away to another area should increase it again, and you should be able to reproduce this over and over. If it's entirely random (i.e - standing still and not moving your view, yet the framerate dips still occur), something may be wrong.
Edited by lukeman3000 - 10/14/12 at 7:55pm
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However, I will say this (and you won't like it). I had two Radeon cards a couple years ago when I built a different gaming rig, and I ran into a couple issues with Crysis. Switched to Nvidia, issues were gone, and I haven't looked back since. But that could've been an isolated incident and many people might be able to play Crysis just fine with Radeon cards.
Also, like Furrby said, test with other games and see how it works. One more thing -- I would not think that overclocking your GPU would be the answer to your problem. If anything, the opposite probably would (downclocking). If it doesn't run right at factory settings, something is wrong and I highly doubt overclocking would fix it, though I'm no expert.

Oh no worries. Although I was afraid somebody would say that... lol.
I have considered returning this ASUS HD for an Nvidia card of equal power since I have about a week left for Newegg's refund window..
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Also, like Furrby said, test with other games and see how it works.

I have, and Crysis is the only game that gives me grief. Every other game I have runs exactly how I'd expect them to.
Also, no. I didn't manually over clock the card. My GPU came with ASUS' utility which allows you to overclock it, unless..that's what you mean?
I Oc'ed the CPU in the BIOS, but I've returned them both to default settings again.

I appreciate your input. smile.gif
Edited by TSBroich - 10/14/12 at 8:00pm
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Oh no worries. Although I was afraid somebody would say that... lol.
I have considered returning this ASUS HD for an Nvidia card of equal power since I have about a week left for Newegg's refund window..
I have, and Crysis is the only game that gives me grief. Every other game I have runs exactly how I'd expect them to.
Also, no. I didn't manually over clock the card. My GPU came with ASUS' utility which allows you to overclock it, unless..that's what you mean?
I Oc'ed the CPU in the BIOS, but I've returned them both to default settings again.
I appreciate your input. smile.gif

No problem; wish I could be of more help.

Maybe Crysis just doesn't play nice with Radeon cards, I don't know. All I can do is recommend Nvidia because I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Plus, they roll out driver updates all the time to address new games and issues. They seem very good about that.

I know it's a little more than what you initially spent, but I would highly recommend a GTX 660 Ti. The value is very good -- you get a lot of bang for your buck. Check out how it stacks up against your 7850.
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No problem; wish I could be of more help.
Maybe Crysis just doesn't play nice with Radeon cards, I don't know. All I can do is recommend Nvidia because I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Plus, they roll out driver updates all the time to address new games and issues. They seem very good about that.
I know it's a little more than what you initially spent, but I would highly recommend a GTX 660 Ti. The value is very good -- you get a lot of bang for your buck. Check out how it stacks up against your 7850.

At this point, I'm almost ready to just return this card and get the one you just linked me to. Like I said, I am still within Newegg's refund window for my parts, so I might just do that. I'll sleep on it.

Would I experience any issues because of my processor? It's an AMD, so I'm not sure if it'd play nicely with an Nvidia card. I plan on upgrading to an unlocked Ivy Bridge Intel Core i5 soon hopefully, but until then, I'd like it to work.

Thanks again for your insight.
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At this point, I'm almost ready to just return this card and get the one you just linked me to. Like I said, I am still within Newegg's refund window for my parts, so I might just do that. I'll sleep on it.
Would I experience any issues because of my processor? It's an AMD, so I'm not sure if it'd play nicely with an Nvidia card. I plan on upgrading to an unlocked Ivy Bridge Intel Core i5 soon hopefully, but until then, I'd like it to work.
Thanks again for your insight.

To be honest I have no idea if you would experience issues. I would think not. And 3.2GHz is not too far of a cry from 3.4GHz, which is what a stock i5 3570K is (which is what I would recommend, btw).

However, I have mine overclocked to 4.2GHz simply using my mobo's built-in overclocking feature called "TPU". It's a physical switch on the motherboard which decides stable overclock settings for the CPU and applies them automatically. It's lower than what I could get manually, but I'm fine with it for now since I'm using the stock air cooler on my CPU.

So yeah, a good CPU is the i5-3570K.

And as far as the card that I linked to goes, I simply chose the EVGA variant because, like Nvidia, I've had good experience with EVGA. I've been using their products for about 3 years now. I had to RMA a card and it went very smoothly. They are known for having a legendary warranty -- just don't physically damage the card and make sure you keep the stock parts around if you install an aftermarket cooler. All they ask is for you to put it back together like it was when you got it and there can't be any blatant physical damage which could be caused by a mod or simply by dropping your card on the floor (they don't cover accidental damage). I believe all of their basic warranties are 3 years, but you have a 30 day (or so) window after you purchase the card to upgrade your warranty by another couple years if you want to spend the $$$. On a 660Ti, I wouldn't bother.

But yeah, read some reviews of other 660Ti's and/or other cards in general; don't just take my word on the EVGA one I linked to. I think you would be very happy with it, though.
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Also for anybody reading this, I just tried running the game again with FRAPS running in the background. It will report 60-90 FPS when the game is running smoothly, which is great. However, when the framerate dips and stutters, it will still report 30-50FPS. thinking.gif I know that that can't be the actual FPS because it just stutters way too much, and it's so obvious.

I even tried lowered some of my settings to "Medium," and I still get stuttering. This is madness I tell you. Madness!
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